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So one of the major pillars of this board is transparency, especially between the mods and the regular community.

After a very heated debate about the hate speech on this board, Henq has chosen to take a short hiatus from the site. I personally asked him to stay on as a mod, but he feels that he just needs to take a step back and cool down. There are absolutely no bad feelings about anything between the FUBU mods and Henq and we look forward for his return. He won't be a mod when he comes back unless he chooses to via the elections, which he is more than free to do.

Taking his place will be Weena because both tuhl and I are in agreement that Weena is rather level-headed, not to mention he's outside of the coileverything community and provides an alternate voice to the permanent mod group.

The elections are still in full swing and we eagerly await potential applicants. So far, there's only a few, so if you want to play a bigger role in this board you're more than welcome to PM me your "application" via the elections sticky.

I also want to remind people that if anyone has any problems with the moderation of this board (including myself), you're more than free to make a thread on here and (so long as you have other people that agree with you) the community can vote a mod out of their position so long as they have a mutually agreed-upon replacement.

EDIT: Our first major drama, we're growing so fast!

RETIRED.
[armory loc="US,Bleeding Hollow"]Mayonaise[/armory]
[armory loc="US,Bleeding Hollow"]Jerkonaise[/armory]

Weena says "LOLOLOLOLOL" out loud on vent.

You will regret this decision.

i hate mayonaise, its for white people

Thats weezing.

But i'm lit up enough to totally do that.

Also, we all no the only reason i got this job was my kick ass app. If you rub that app on ur butthole, you'll quake in extasy.

Ecstasy. I had to..

I thought this thread was about changing hats, like Mr. Rogers changing his socks. I am disappointed.

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

I just wanted to put my two cents in here. I read through the pages of the Hate post and wanted to comment but it was to late and already locked.

I both agree and disagree with both parties on all accounts. Confusing for some but I am sure others get it.

A) While the terms in question, racial slurs, derogatory terms towards sexual orientation etc are offensive to some they are not offensive to all and in some cases (odd as it may be) they become a term or endearment or as Mayo said " a piece of history". While this doesn't negate someone else stance on the word it still should be considered.

Words only have power if you let them. I am not African American nor am I homosexual. Regardless, if someone were to call me a "faggot" I would shrug it off. Others might be foaming at the mouth and calling for your head.

I guess my point is here Henq you are in a way wrong/right same with Mayo, Muerte and co.

Mayo just because you guys like it doesn't mean you can force it down the throats of the other moderators. And Henq and Muerte just cause you don't like it, does it mean you can force the others to conform.

Instead of being uniform Mayo you need to either make the titles custom, Henq the Mayor, Mayo The Ultra Faggot Tuhl the French Faggot etc etc. or have them all something standard such as Henq (Insert Mod Name Here)

To keep the boards neutral and diverse you have to be able to roll with the punches. One topic can't force you off the boards. This poll was a matter of opinion. "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one but they all stink." Yes I know that is corny but it fits.

*EDIT* Forgot what spelling was

85 Mage Bleeding Hollow Bored with game so I let sub expire......
85 LOLKnight Bleeding Hollow Bored with game so I let sub expire......
85 Shaman Bleeding Hollow Bored with game so I let sub expire......

I kind of agree with godslayer. The vote we took was whether or not to keep either or both the slurs in the mod titles and uncensored speech. We did not take a vote to make the slurs in the mod titles mandatory.

Henq made his position regarding the mod titles very clear even before the vote was completed and tallied, and his mod title was respectfully changed. Changing it to something else, especially if no one discussed it with him beforehand, relating to the subject matter he took objection to in the first place was not the most diplomatic of actions.

I appreciate the time and effort you've put into the board, Mayo, and I don't think you're doing what you're doing to "rub it in" or otherwise antagonize people, so please allow me to suggest that we put the mandatory "homo tagging" to a vote. I don't intend to make "let's take a vote" suggestions very often, and don't think we need to do it over every little disagreement, but I find this to be a special case.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

Yeah i think the vote question was poorly worded.

It's like GameFAQs polls, there's rarely ever an answer which actually sums up my feelings on a topic so i often don't vote or just vote for the one i expect to be the outlier to screw with their data (because one vote makes a difference).

When i voted keep the title, i wasn't voting for enforcing the title onto people who don't want it. That's not cricket.
But i was against changing the titles across the board, or enforcing change onto people against their will, becuase some didn't like the name.

So given two polar opposite answers, and no one answer which actually suited my opinion, i went for the one which didn't serve to appease people who i vehemently disagree with on issues like this.

Yay democracy.

For the record, if a mod expressly talks to me about not wanting to be called a "faggot", I'll change their title just like I did Henq's when he had the same issue. We already voted on the issue and unless the mod has a deep personal problem with the word, they will have "faggot" somewhere in their name. It isn't really a way of "rubbing it in" but more of having a way for people to easily identify mod posts.

All of the permamods are completely ok with their titles and we'll have to see what happens with our first mod elections.

Also, I suppose I could've worded things more specifically, but if we have 10 different options and everyone picks a different one, nothing will get done or we'll get 2 votes on one issue, making a larger amount of people unhappy because the board was so spread out it only took one extra vote to get a very niche view of the stance made official.

PS: I'm not saying that anyone's doing it, but I have a gut feeling that people might start to bring up the original debate again. The issue is done forever. If you wanted to have your two cents, you should've posted in the thread while it was still being discussed.

RETIRED.
[armory loc="US,Bleeding Hollow"]Mayonaise[/armory]
[armory loc="US,Bleeding Hollow"]Jerkonaise[/armory]

Henq's objection, if I understand it correctly, was that he didn't see the need to do something he found objectionable and/or offensive such as referring to the mods as homosexuals. I don't think it was just the word "faggot" that was his only point of contention, but the idea that referring to the mods as homosexuals as a joke insult in any way was something that made him uncomfortable.



I agree, I didn't see it as you rubbing it in. It was a joke. Most of us had a good laugh at/with it. I agree that we need a way to identify mods, and that was a pretty easy way to do it. I don't want to put any extra stress on you, because you've given up at least a little bit of your own personal time to get this set up for everyone else, and I don't want to be the asshole who does the whole, "well, you put five minutes into it, why don't you put another ten into it, you've got nothing better to do/owe it to us/or whatever." However, despite what I just said, I will suggest that if it's possible and doesn't put you out, maybe you could look at changing the color of the text for the mods name...even with keeping the "faggot" in the title of those past/present/future mods who don't mind it.



Hey, I get that, and I'm sure everyone else does, too. The thing is, though, when I voted to keep the names and not censor slurs and such, I was voting that we do the exact opposite of what had pissed us all of so bad back on the official forums and avoid any kind of censorship at all. I extend that philosophy beyond just simply not removing/changing what a participant posts to not adding anything, either, and that seems to be what Henq left over. You were kind enough to remove the "faggot" because of his objection, but then added "of the gays," which he saw as essentially the same thing. I don't want us to be telling people which words they can't use, but I don't want us being people who tell people what words they must use, either.



That's not what I want, either. The matter was put to a vote and decided, and we decided the slurs were OK. I just think that now we need to differentiate between "OK" and "Mandatory."

I want you to know, too, Mayo, and I would hope this goes for everyone else, too, that I really appreciate the time and trouble you've taken to do all this. I just don't want to see us lose the participation of people like Henq over what I see as a misunderstanding over a joke that was taken the wrong way.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

WEENA FOR MOST AWESOME MOD IN THE HISTORY OF FOREVER ILU BABY

ilu2

Ps. ROFL

Soooo...has anyone had any further discussions with Henq. Is he going to come back?

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I'm with everything Jubber said. As much as I love this board and find it entertaining, I'd hate to lose quality posters because of simple misunderstandings, or jokes taken the wrong way etc.

He'll come back when he's ready.

RETIRED.
[armory loc="US,Bleeding Hollow"]Mayonaise[/armory]
[armory loc="US,Bleeding Hollow"]Jerkonaise[/armory]