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Battletard · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:22 am

lolngrs

Let me be the first to nominate this man for employee of the month, and receive priority parking and a free meal!

STAHHHHPPPPP STAAHHHHHHPPPPP

Dvergar · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:20 am

http://www.dnainfo.com/20111014/greenwi ... -customers

skribble · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:21 am

Battletard wrote:

STAAHHHHHHPPPPP

There will surely be a dubstep mix of this worth a quick laugh soon.

Battletard · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:28 am

skribble wrote:

Battletard wrote:

STAAHHHHHHPPPPP

There will surely be a dubstep mix of this worth a quick laugh soon.

I suggested it like 3 times in comments!

Usdk · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:01 am

It stops being self defense when they're helpless on the ground or unconscious. or both.

still.....haven't you ever wanted to do that?

Azelma · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:55 am

So, if he had just struck them and knocked them down, then stopped, it would have been fine?

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-bloody-gr ... 8734.story

Quote:

The argument began around 12:30 a.m. when the cashier, Rayon McIntosh, 31, told the two women -- Denise Darbeau, 24, of Queens, and Rachel Edwards, 24, of Brooklyn -- that he would have to scan their $50 bill before getting their food, according to DNAinfo.com.

Hilarious.

Quote:

McIntosh is now being held at the Manhattan Detention Center and faces charges of felony assault and criminal possession of a weapon, according to police. He is being held on $40,000 bail.

Edwads and Darbeau face charges of menacing, trespassing and disorderly conduct.

He's screwed because he was on parole and had been convicted of manslaughter before. Still, the women jumped over the counter/initiated the physical confrontation by bitch slapping him....yes he went ballistic with a metal pipe, but I think them nappy headed ho's had it coming lulz.

The lesson here is...don't ever start a fight with a McDonalds employee, because they might be much more hardcore than you.

skribble · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:09 am

Usdk wrote:

It stops being self defense when they're helpless on the ground or unconscious. or both.

still.....haven't you ever wanted to do that?

If a national poll were taken and every person with a similar occupation was asked that question, Rayon McIntosh would probably be overwhelmed with feelings of community, belonging, and other shit of that nature.

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It's possible I would have considered bagging groceries longer if my store would have adopted that policy, maybe.

EDIT: Victims also should have watched this first.

Usdk · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:38 am

Too blurry to read on my phone will try later

Azelma · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:55 am

Can't read it even on a computer.

Anyway, another thing I was thinking...here are how the events transpired:

1. He is just doing his job saying he will need to check their $50 bill
2. They start verbally assaulting him calling him a "pussy" etc
3. The woman initiates physical contact by slapping him, so he pushes her away and he retreats to the back of the restaurant
4. One woman JUMPS THE COUNTER in pursuit of him, while the other walks around the side to confront him further
5. He now has a metal rod, and instead of retreating, they try to get close to him and get wailed on (how does he know they aren't concealing weapons of some kind)
6. When they are on the ground, you can see him yelling "STAY DOWN" - the women still make moves to get up, and we also don't know if they were trying to grab him or bring him down. If they'd just stayed down the bashing wouldn't have continued.

Clearly both parties are in the wrong here, but I still think the guy was just defending himself and being a hardcore nigga, did a real good job at it.

I also like how media outlets are defending the two women...and making it seem like this guy shouldn't have done anything because they were women. Sorry, but if someone is coming after me, I would do whatever I could to put them on the fucking ground, regardless of gender.

He's going to get owned because of his prior record and parole situation, and these women will get nothing more than a slap on the wrist and possibly thousands of dollars in a lawsuit (how much do you wanna bet they bring legal action against McDonalds?).

Dvergar · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:43 pm

I think he went too far with it, but that's not what a self-defense argument is about. The fact that he left and came back means he probably won't get off with justification though. I am not sure about NY, but in Pa if you leave the scene and come back (and could leave another way), it's not self-defense anymore.

Battletard · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:29 pm

Dvergar wrote:

I think he went too far with it, but that's not what a self-defense argument is about. The fact that he left and came back means he probably won't get off with justification though. I am not sure about NY, but in Pa if you leave the scene and come back (and could leave another way), it's not self-defense anymore.

Fight or flight response. Natural human instinct. I think smack those bitches to the ground and flee to dial 911 while they are down would have made him less legally liable, though not necessarily entirely immune to charges.

Usdk · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:34 pm

Any time you strike a woman you're fucked in this country, provoked and deserving or not.

Battletard · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:44 pm

Usdk wrote:

Any time you strike a woman you're fucked in this country, provoked and deserving or not.

How would this have ended if it were one female employee beating down two asshole male customers for doing the exact same thing, total mirroring of actions, just reversed roles.

Everyone would be like 'OMG she is an hero lulz'

See Also: Gender Equality thread.

Dvergar · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:57 pm

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I think smack those bitches to the ground and flee to dial 911 while they are down would have made him less legally liable, though not necessarily entirely immune to charges.

Justification (self-defense) means you're immune to those charges. With the possible exception of the shove at the beginning if that was a separate charge. Like I said I think he went to far, but self-defense rests on the proper judgment of the individual. When I served on a jury in April I was on a stabbing trial where the defendant was pleading Justification. We were pretty unanimous that he shouldn't have stabbed the guy, but we believed that he thought it was his only choice and his life was in danger. There are things you can't see on that tape that would come out at the trial, so maybe it was his only choice, maybe the girls made gestures that could be construed as menacing while they were on the floor. If that was the case he should get off.

Personally, if they would have come behind the counter and he would have knocked them out cold with a good punch to the chin, this would be an awesome clip. I've worked enough customer service jobs to want to take a metal rod to some people, I definitely get happy watching entitled pieces of shit get what's coming to them.

Usdk wrote:

Any time you strike a woman you're fucked in this country, provoked and deserving or not.

Battletard · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:13 pm

Is it about hatred of women, or hatred of inequality in the guise of feminism?

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