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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:14 pm  
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It looks like bin Laden got nailed because of good old fashioned police work: scouting, investigating, following people around, watching for unusual activity (like a gated fortress with a garage full of bulletproof vehicles in an otherwise middle-class Pakistani suburb), talking to people, and of course a good old-fashioned walk-in stoolie (one of his former wives).

Still, I'm really a "show me the body" kind of guy. Even better, would have been cutting the corpse into chunks and auctioning them off as novelties. Could have raised some good dough that way.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:18 pm  
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So when Trump does it to Obama, Obama gets 'punked' but when Obama does it to Trump, he doesn't get an ounce of credit?


You're really gonna get trolled on something this obvious?


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:20 pm  
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Dude what if they actually captured bin laden, SAID he was killed and are now grilling him for info in some secret facility?

HOW TOM CLANCY WOULD THAT BE


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:34 pm  
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Dvergar wrote:
Mns wrote:
So when Trump does it to Obama, Obama gets 'punked' but when Obama does it to Trump, he doesn't get an ounce of credit?


You're really gonna get trolled on something this obvious?


Not only that, but...when did Obama troll Trump? Trump pushed his buttons until he felt like he had to show the birth certificate he said for two years or so was a non-issue thing that no one needed to see. Obama did what in return? A few LOLMAD jokes at Trump's expense at the WHCD? Made sure he interrupted Trump's reality show with the OBL news? That's not a troll, that's just talking shit. Trolling is getting the other guy to make an ass out of himself, not just hurling cheap jabs.

I'm still waiting for some explanation of how the OBL death photos are any different than the Abu-Graib phots, and why it was OK to show photos that are allegedly going to incite violence in one case when it's now not OK to do so in the other. I already know that the answer pretty much runs along the lines of 'consistency be damned, this is my president.'

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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:43 pm  
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actually announcing the OBL thing during trumps show was pretty funny

still, i dont watch that show and had to find out about it after the fact


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:44 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
Trolling is getting the other guy to make an ass out of himself


If that's you're definition, then not only did Trump not troll Obama, but Obama trolled the fuck out of Trump.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:46 pm  
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getting someone whos job is making an ass of themself to make an ass of themself is gray area.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:13 pm  
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Gitmo was ineffective in getting the required intel to find Bin Laden. He was in his "million dollar house" for over 4 years while everyone thought he was in some super cave complex. They got him based on one of the peons working for that location.

They would've found him earlier if Pakistan & the CIA followed the wife they captured years ago home after they released her.

Obama took a 50/50 risk based on the possibility of the information leaking to wikileaks, just like he took action against Trump to prevent a bigger issue. He's reactionary and some of you think he's the greatest tactical mind ever.

Doesn't matter anyway. Prattle on.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:15 pm  
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I can assure you he is not the greatest tactical mind ever.

But bin laden hiding out for this long is laid at the feet of the CIA.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:21 pm  
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Oh, and because as per usual Jubber doesn't know the facts of what he's talking about:

The AG photos were leaked and released by the media. The Bush Administration did not want them released (and fought against more getting out), and did not make a decision to release them. If pictures of Osama were leaked, the media would absolutely show them.

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I already know that the answer pretty much runs along the lines of 'consistency be damned, this is my president.'


You should do more critical thinking and research and less assuming.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:37 pm  
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Obama blocked the release of the photos when at one point he wasn't going to block them. I think that's what Jubber was referring to...

Edit: Actually, I re-read what he wrote and that doesn't fit I dun think... nvm
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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:47 pm  
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Dvergar wrote:
Oh, and because as per usual Jubber doesn't know the facts of what he's talking about:

The AG photos were leaked and released by the media. The Bush Administration did not want them released (and fought against more getting out), and did not make a decision to release them. If pictures of Osama were leaked, the media would absolutely show them.

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I already know that the answer pretty much runs along the lines of 'consistency be damned, this is my president.'


You should do more critical thinking and research and less assuming.


Oh, I'm sorry, is this coming from the "history major" that thinks it was Republicans that filibustered the civil right act? Better start boarding up the windows on that glass house, bro.

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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:53 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
But bin laden hiding out for this long is laid at the feet of the CIA.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
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Jubbergun wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, is this coming from the "history major" that thinks it was Republicans that filibustered the civil right act? Better start boarding up the windows on that glass house, bro.

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Yeah, completely posted the wrong thing on that one, was in a hurry and wasn't thinking (all the worse because I remember posting quite a lot on the thread where we showed that all those Democrat spots became Republican spots because the Democratic leadership were the ones fighting for equality while the south just wanted to keep hatin dem nigras).

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Obama blocked the release of the photos when at one point he wasn't going to block them. I think that's what Jubber was referring to...

Edit: Actually, I re-read what he wrote and that doesn't fit I dun think... nvm


No, Jubber sees this as republicans versus democrats. He sees it as "liberals were ok with AG during Bush, but now that it's Obama they see things differently". He's not making an issue of what Obama should do, he just wants to cry about how people who have no say over the release see the issue. He didn't understand what happened with the AG photos, and nothing in his original post had anything to do with what you posted.


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 Post subject: Re: @Bin Laden
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:56 pm  
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They quit giving a shit about Castro long ago. If you can kill a threat before he kills you, great. If you can diplomatically elminate the person AS a threat, that's a grand slam home run.

The CIA isn't nearly as good as they want us to think they are.


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