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I've had a long time to "consider" it.

The beginning of the drama was that I chose to step up to the plate way back in T7 content, and won the enmity of people who couldn't handle responsible pugging, but not the gratitude of people who shared my aims but didn't have it in them to do so. Since then, time and again that same cycle has played out.

The NQR troupe first formed out of Play Time/Enrage Inc, and the reason I didn't participate in those was that some people still held petty grudges from way back in T7 despite the fact that all I did was be fair and refuse to play favorites or be an elitist (in the sense that some people felt they were so elite, they should be free from the requirements that apply to everyone else).

By the time T10/T11 came out, the lines were pretty well drawn.

Whenever I did something everyone wanted a piece of it. When I said "no" then suddenly I became the bad guy and NOT the people who didn't have it in them to lift a finger.

One vivid example was when I actually asked Purpledrink to attend a Ulduar Immortal run; he made a bs excuse because he didn't want to risk his precious time and effort, and as a result he didn't get certain kills he needed. Next week, we were back, and he got on vent and imperiously demanded to be brought in for the things he "needed" that had been done last week. Of course, I was instantly the bad guy for adhering to the principle that fence-riding shouldn't be rewarded.

I was asked to join EI after being initially rejected because their beloved Dorm flaked and QQd during HLK25 progression because he didn't have it in him to man up and do a few things better. I later learned that a lot of the people most enthusiastic about my helping out secretly hated my guts. I should have known, really. But come again next tier guess who I'm being asked to spend my time to help gear up for the raid?

Several times in NQR I asked, agreed, or offered to help with this or that PvE and instantly became the bad guy when I got tired of wiping back-to-back on snake or bear or eagle boss (no, really) or Atramedes or normal mode Cho'gall, "LOL WE'RE 13/13 ON OUR MAINS THESE ARE OUR ALTS" "WE WORKED HARD FOR OUR ZA BEARS ON OUR MAINS". Obviously, my agreeing to help, then getting pissed when my patience and good will is utterly abused, makes me a worse guy than those who refused to help at all.

You can make this something personal if you like. But as I said, I've had a very long time to consider it carefully, and the only recurring theme is that I did what others did not - had the balls to step forward, not just "go with the flow" - and got cut down for it.

You want proof? I can give you proof. These guys have never met with anything but failure unless they're paired with someone - me, Mazeltov, Xeyali, or Play - that will give them what they don't have - that willingness to take responsibility. They bitch and cry about me just as they did about Mazel or Xeyali and just as they still mock the perceived naivete of Play's GM. They were something like 4/13 heroic, for no other reason than sheer lack of self-discipline, until they went and joined a guild that provided that discipline they can't impose on themselves.

Time and again they get into that kind of dynamic. It always ends the same way. They walk off and talk about how it was all fail.

There are bigger constants here than me.

One vivid example was when I actually asked Purpledrink to attend a Ulduar Immortal run; he made a bs excuse because he didn't want to risk his precious time and effort, and as a result he didn't get certain kills he needed. Next week, we were back, and he got on vent and imperiously demanded to be brought in for the things he "needed" that had been done last week. Of course, I was instantly the bad guy for adhering to the principle that fence-riding shouldn't be rewarded.

I was asked to join EI after being initially rejected because their beloved Dorm flaked and QQd during HLK25 progression because he didn't have it in him to man up and do a few things better. I later learned that a lot of the people most enthusiastic about my helping out secretly hated my guts. I should have known, really. But come again next tier guess who I'm being asked to spend my time to help gear up for the raid?

Several times in NQR I asked, agreed, or offered to help with this or that PvE and instantly became the bad guy when I got tired of wiping back-to-back on snake or bear or eagle boss (no, really) or Atramedes or normal mode Cho'gall, "LOL WE'RE 13/13 ON OUR MAINS THESE ARE OUR ALTS" "WE WORKED HARD FOR OUR ZA BEARS ON OUR MAINS". Obviously, my agreeing to help, then getting pissed when my patience and good will is utterly abused, makes me a worse guy than those who refused to help at all.

You want proof? I can give you proof. These guys have never met with anything but failure unless they're paired with someone - me, Mazeltov, Xeyali, or Play

You just felt like a ten minute rant was required just because you got into a group with someone who happened to be from the server to which one of those people transferred. If these people are so petty, minor, talentless, and inconsequential, then you shouldn't have any problem letting it go. They don't matter, so why bring them up unbidden in a group of strangers?

yes having a job is a BS excuse.... i did get in vent because you invited me to the run again...saying "so we totally should do these bosses for immortal cause i need them" obviously is me demanding

This was Evl's doing i personally would rather take someones tank alt than you because i knew of the drama that would come from it

the people you wiped and were extremely rude to where F&A of NQR people that are pretty cool but downs it up in the wow department

Edit: ooo noooo i remember this story this is where you pulled all of eagle boss trash at one and got pissed cause the healer couldnt keep you up if i remember

the reason we wiped on Atramedes normal was for the fact you would pull the boss and tank him on the group we marked where he should be tanked and after we stated this in vent you responded "sorry i cant hear i have fluid in my ears" and continued to tank the wrong way so we kicked you

lol.... yep and you have triumphed in every guild youve made/joined

it bothers me more that you go out of your way to prove these points you have to everyone that will listen
you are a fucked up individual

Why rant to this random person about Purpledrink when this person doesn't even know him?
Did you have altruistic intentions? Were you simply trying to warn him against grouping with Purpledrink to save him a repair bill?
If that's not the case, then you simply must have wanted to give Purpledrink a bad reputation in the eyes of this random. Kind of a bitch move if you ask me.

Your job had never prevented you from raiding at those times. Nor did it do so the next week.

Okay. What drama came of it?

That is a lie. You're conflating two separate weeks. On that particular week, I decided to return your behavior in kind. You initially refused to invite me then started begging me to come after you couldn't find anyone else, then lied about the itinerary (saying the raid would do Atra heroic when you had no such intention). You kicked me mid-pull before a wipe occurred. The wipefest occurred on a previous week.

Excuse is BS anyway because the room is one big circle and the boss has no conal aoe and doesn't tail swipe. Where the tank positions him is totally irrelevant, especially on normal mode.

What you don't understand is that to triumph, you must risk failure. You don't like that, so you choose to let others get their hands dirty. When they fail, that doesn't make you better than them for not having tried.

It was you who initially posted about your petty gripe that someone said something you didn't like to someone you don't even know.

It was you who were willing to pretend to be a friend to someone you secretly hated to get virtual stuff in a game.

My intent was not to badmouth him per se, merely compare experiences.

You talked shit about me, so why are you splitting hairs about someone else doing the same?

Person was not random. He was a member of the guild Purpledrink initially xferred to join then jumped ship.

My intent was not to badmouth him per se, merely compare experiences.

Actions should have consequences. That is both the means and ends of fair play.

You talked shit about me, so why are you splitting hairs about someone else doing the same?

Clearly you just wanted to bitch to some people about Purpledrink and get them to form negative opinions of him and his friends. Regardless of what Purpledrink may have said to people about you in the past (and I'm not excusing him if he was talking shit), it's childish to continue it - and worse to do so with people who know neither of the parties involved. This is Sorority On-The-Rag Bitch Stuff, something truly intelligent people should be above. Afterall, what good can ever come out of it?

i worked in retail my hours changed week from week. only raids i never had work for were my guilds main raids.

the drama of probably about 5-8 raiders saying "if aestu raids with us i wont be"

we never "begged" you to come after spamming in guild you offered to go because you needed a few things from bwd(shoulders and neck i believe) we didnt want to take you because id rather take a pug over a self righteous douchebag.... seeing as we couldnt find another tank we invited you

you were assigned where to stand and tank him you failed to tank him where we said
it doesnt matter if the position is relevant for the fight we assigned where people should go and thats where they go. if you had a problem with where he was being tanked you should have spoken up not stood there and gave an excuse as you did

this is total BS going back to what you said you gave up after 300 HLK wipes i have no counter of how many we had but it was in the 200 wipe mark... the only reason we "flaked out" as you said is that the other leaders of the guild decided to say fk heroic LK and work on Halion which i did not want any part of.

complete honesty at first i thought of you as a decent person ive once said "he's personality is very odd but he isnt a bad guy" but the longer i talked to you and watched the things you do and the way you insist on letting everyone know what you think about things you really shouldnt care or have a say in...i realized all the things people said about you were true.

because your were out of line for doing so