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 Post subject: Re: Appearance Tab
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:03 pm  
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Dvergar wrote:
The idea for costumes/appearance changes has been suggested since the first patch of beta, it's not like they're doing it now because some wow knock-off did it.


Actually they are. They even said so. The NPC's name - Warpweaver Hashom - is an anagram for "WoW Revamp/Rehash" =)

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In addition, there is still nothing other than a name to go by, there's a dozen things that npc could do. I don't see them allowing model item swapping or even coloring (how else could they get away with the lazy heroic recolorings)?


Yeah, I agree with this. I don't see it happening - but then again Blizzard has surprised us before with their ability to go 180 on a dime and do things they said they wouldn't, or just don't make sense.

I'm going with Necra - it's probably something else entirely. We'll have to wait and see.

Not that it really matters, because by and large, it's too little, too late.

Whatever the NPCs do, won't address the many fundamental problems of WoW: bad community, homogenization, extreme grindiness, paucity of content (the fact the game world as a whole is fairly large doesn't matter since players spend the overwhelming majority of their time in a very few constricted and unimaginatively laid out areas), terrible customer service, buggy software (graphics/memory/connection issues), and the generally arrogant and disrespectful attitude that has come to pervade all things Blizzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Appearance Tab
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:32 pm  
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I don't like the idea. If you want to RP it up, farm the old gear. I like knowing what my opponent is wearing.

I'm also curious who you think the best warlock on the server is, Aestu. Because it doesn't sound like this guy. He's probably not the best warlock on BH anymore, but he was for the entirety of BC.


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 Post subject: Re: Appearance Tab
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I think I meant to say "vanilla" in that context.


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I'd love to see them design an NPC that fixes all of wow's problems.

or for you to acknowledge that they're not trying to fix all of wow's problems by instituting whatever newest bullshit this is.


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Usdk wrote:
I'd love to see them design an NPC that fixes all of wow's problems.

or for you to acknowledge that they're not trying to fix all of wow's problems by instituting whatever newest bullshit this is.


I heartily acknowledge that. Clearly, Blizzard devs aren't trying, and that won't change.


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Woah, Clearly Seribus is the best warlock..


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blissid was a close second in his day.


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Brykon wrote:
Woah, Clearly Seribus is the best warlock..


Seribus was probably the best in WotLK. Blissid was up there in Vanilla. Sulolin was king of BC on BH, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Appearance Tab
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:42 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
I like knowing what my opponent is wearing.

This is one of the things I don't like about it. Best my friend and I could figure, if they did do such a thing, is disable it from working in Arenas/RBGs. Even then though. I think it has potentional to bring a little more uniqueness back to the game but only if done right and right is something Blizzard has a hard time doing.

As for farming the gear, I'm fairly sure you'll still be required to have the actual gear you want it to look like. I imagine a setup alot like the reforger. Insert True Gear in Slot A. Insert gear you want it to look like in Slot B. I believe if anything it would just change the look of the real gear as opposed to slapping all the stats on the other one because that would be confusing, harder to pull of on Blizzards end and make it more difficult to inspect people's gear.


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Necrachilles wrote:
I think it has potentional to bring a little more uniqueness back to the game but only if done right and right is something Blizzard has a hard time doing.


Truth.

A lot of the ideas implemented in WotLK/Cata and more so now - class balance, dailies, daily dungeons, fiveman epics, RBGs, reused instances, archaeology, heroic modes - aren't actually bad ideas, they're just terribly implemented. Good ideas implemented so badly the inevitable arguments become about the idea as it's known by the implementation and not the potential merits.

Then Blizzard assumes their role of, "we can't fix the problem because that would concede we made a mistake." Which brings us here.

Honestly, a major turn-off for WoW is just how...cult-like...the community has become.

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As for farming the gear, I'm fairly sure you'll still be required to have the actual gear you want it to look like. I imagine a setup alot like the reforger. Insert True Gear in Slot A. Insert gear you want it to look like in Slot B. I believe if anything it would just change the look of the real gear as opposed to slapping all the stats on the other one because that would be confusing, harder to pull of on Blizzards end and make it more difficult to inspect people's gear.


Calling it a "transmogrifier" implies this is likely the case (as well as the proximity to the account bank and reforger). and I agree, yeah, it could be decent and interesting. Less so for plate wearers since God knows it's going to get "ugly" fast with 95% of the playerbase choosing T1/T2 and acting like they got it when it was hard.

Thinking about it, the rarest models are T3 (by a huge margin), followed by T8 (getting a full set is fairly difficult in the here and now), heroic T11 (few non-raiders got sets and it's very hard to get people to go back now, or get moron pugs to do heroic modes), and of course the neat ToGC cloaks.

I'd imagine Aestu in T5, of course. And I doubt many people are going to choose that set. Though T11 goes much better with the Shodowmourne tabard: new ones are surprisingly rare.


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 Post subject: Re: Appearance Tab
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:00 pm  
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Thinking about it, the rarest models are T3 (by a huge margin), followed by T8 (getting a full set is fairly difficult in the here and now), heroic T11 (few non-raiders got sets and it's very hard to get people to go back now, or get moron pugs to do heroic modes), and of course the neat ToGC cloaks.

I'd imagine Aestu in T5, of course. And I doubt many people are going to choose that set. Though T11 goes much better with the Shodowmourne tabard: new ones are surprisingly rare.

Couldn't they just use T7 in place of T3?

If anything, I'd possibly go Bloodfang depending on how many Rogue choose to use it too, I suspect alot. If not that then perhaps the Darth Vader Helmet.

At the end of the day what I'll probably really end up going with is some low level greens with neat models. Maybe a robe and a wizard hat. We'll see.


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Dvergar wrote:
(how else could they get away with the lazy heroic recolorings)?


that's exactly why they'll get away with it? they can be even more lazy, which has been a trend for them forever now.

diablo 3 is going to print money, and all it has to do is simply exist to do so.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:45 pm  
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Dvergar wrote:
The idea for costumes/appearance changes has been suggested since the first patch of beta, it's not like they're doing it now because some wow knock-off did it.


Actually they are. They even said so. The NPC's name - Warpweaver Hashom - is an anagram for "WoW Revamp/Rehash" =)

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LotRO did it before that, and I'm fairly sure more games have done it before Turbine implemented it.

I like how GW2 is doing it - xmute stones to transfer an items stats to another item that keep the look of, and a whole separate set of gear that can only be worn in the cities.


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 Post subject: Re: Appearance Tab
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Grimmgor wrote:
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Guild Wars (1 and 2) has this system in place and I'm sure others probably do.


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Necrachilles wrote:
Couldn't they just use T7 in place of T3?


T3 doesn't actually share models with T7. They share a look, but the models are discrete.

This is most apparent with paladin T3/T7. T3 is a battle bra, T7 is a breastplate. T3 is plate, T7 is scale.
It's fairly obvious with the mage set, too.

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that's exactly why they'll get away with it? they can be even more lazy, which has been a trend for them forever now.

diablo 3 is going to print money, and all it has to do is simply exist to do so.


That's like the entire gaming industry. One wonders where this is going to lead.

I'm convinced what will ultimately happen is the same thing that happened with shitty American cars, which was that the Japanese and Koreans eventually showed up and hosed them down. I think in the case of video games, when the Indians eventually decide to get into developing their own titles, they'll take the current industry to the cleaners, just like they did Ford/GM.


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