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Necrachilles · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:09 pm

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•Chi (energy) slowly regenerates and is only used for your Jab and Roll abilities.
•Jab generates Light and Dark force, which are used for everything else. Some finishing move uses dark force, some use the light force.
•No auto attack! Devs want you to have this street fighter feel where you punch a lot

It's okay guys, most noobs don't have the patience for no auto attack but we'll see how long that lasts. In before Force Choke.

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:09 pm

you know, when one of the features popped up on screen saying PET BATTLES, i yelled POKEMANZ as a joke.

and then i found this.

Meowth · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:10 pm

I hope they aren't going for a battle medic of sorts.

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:12 pm

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•Pro - The level 10 specs were really nice and gave you a role early in the game, definitely a keeper.
•Pro - Removing junk from the talent trees was also a very good move.
•Pro - Having some kind of choices for optional skills/subspecs worked out pretty well.
•Con - You had a risk of "skipping" important talents
•Con - There wasn't enough junk removed
•Con - There wasn't enough choices, you might have a different final talent point than another combat rogue but it just wasn't enough. The cookie cutter build still persists.
•Con - No enough customization, no true hybridization (Using a little bit of 2 different trees)
•Con - Players got grumpy

I like what I'm seeing here...I think.

Kayllaira · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:12 pm

are you fuckin serious.

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:16 pm

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•There is not talent points or ranks.
•There is one talent pree per class.
•You earn talents every 15 levels.
•You get to choose 1 out of 3 every time you get a new point, you can only pick one of them and can't go back to get the other ones.
•There will be no mandatory talent.
•You can now change talents as easily as you change glyphs.

Okay, I don't like what I'm seeing here...

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:24 pm

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-blizzcon-2011

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:25 pm

Double Rested XP is fail.

It's not fail because it's DK 2.0. It's not fail because it's designed to appeal to casuals (which it is).

It's fail because like most of the dev team's casual impulses these days, it reflects a fundamental lack of understanding of the playerbase. WoW has very few true casuals these days - most so-called casuals are just hardcore bads, and they play the game (and level their chars) serially. Buffing rested XP makes no more difference for them than any other hardcore players.

No auto-attack seems to be an effort to defeat the "autoattack to 85" DK mentality and force noobs to play their chars. They're going to revert it eventually because it will prove unworkable, not only due to QQ but also because specials-only will be totally unbalanced. Imagine if a DK had no autoattack but the same DPS, so, to compensate, Obliterate hits for 100k.

The racials are just stupid. People are saying the food racial is overpowered. It isn't. It's probably middle-of-the-road as a pure DPS racial, but what tips the balance is the abject uselessness of the other racials. Anyone who isn't stupid understands the usefulness of, say, Will of the Humans/Forsaken, War Stomp, or even Gift of the Naaru compared to...fall damage reduction? Cooking skill? Hell, saving a gem/reforge with the squidgoat/human/orc racials is about as good as a slight increase in primary stats. At worst you'd be looking at a percentage of a percentage margin.

Anyone who believes Metzen's throw line about TBC Pandaren should be sterilized. The squidgoat are called squidgoat because...they're from Draenor? They joined the Alliance because they hated the existing faction of the orcs? The squidgoat were an afterthought? Durrrrrppp...

That part about them choosing the squidgoat over the Pandaren because "focus groups repeatedly found goats sexier than pandas" is just Aestu-level BS. Whatever.

"Pet Battle". I wonder if they plan on making rare pets more widely acquirable? I wonder if Mini Tyrael will be playable; if so, will he get special moves? Unhackable Mew, anyone?

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:28 pm

pokemon explanation going on in this stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-blizzcon-2011

it is fucking pokemon. literally, entirely.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:30 pm

I refuse to watch that so you must summarize. How are moves determined? Is it like Pokemon where each pet has a set of moves, some moves are common amongst many pets and others are unique to only a certain pet? Are pet stats normalized or differentiated, like they were in Pokemon?

Meowth · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:31 pm

Removing auto attack doesn't change much of anything. Abilities will hit slightly harder instead, so what? It even helps show who is the better player 10-20% of their damage isn't basically free.

Grimmgor · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:32 pm

Aestu wrote:

I refuse to watch that so you must summarize. How are moves determined? Is it like Pokemon where each pet has a set of moves, some moves are common amongst many pets and others are unique to only a certain pet? Are pet stats normalized or differentiated, like they were in Pokemon?

Pokemon. Cut and paste.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:33 pm

Meowth wrote:

Removing auto attack doesn't change much of anything. Abilities will hit slightly harder instead, so what? It even helps show who is the better player 10-20% of their damage isn't basically free.

Arcane mage is hard
Also see: Vanilla Stormstrike

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:36 pm

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•PvE Scenarios are a way to give new interesting content that doesn't make sense in a dungeon content.
•Scenarios are more about reusing parts of the world in interesting new ways, and introducing new types of PvE gameplay that we've never seen before like PvE battlegrounds.
•They are short instances for a few players, the amount of players can vary depending on the scenario, some of them can be for 3 players.
•You don't need the typical tank/heal/dps setup, you will just be able to enter and play your role no matter what it is.
•It will be a staged experience where you will try to accomplish some greater goal
•For example, a scenario might require you to kill 25 kobolds in stage 1, then find and return 4 goldshire children, and then kill the boss.
•Developers would like to do PvE battlegrounds, where you will have to slay 50 alliance/horde soldiers, destroy 6 towers and the barracks, and then defeat the enemy General.
•They could replace group quests.
•It uses the same queue system as the dungeon finder
•Since there is no role requirements, queues should be instant.

This looks familar.

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•Complete a dungeon in x minutes
•To earn Bronze, Silver, Gold medals.
•Gear levels are normalized, all your gear will be brought to the same level to make the competition even.
•You can't just get better gear to overpower it.
•It will reward sweet looking gear with no stats, and valor points!
•Challenge Mode will reward you with very unique looking gear to show off how awesome you are to your friends
•A new challenge dungeons UI will be added, you will be able to check your medals, your ranking, show what rewards you can unlock, etc ....

I like the sound of this.

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•You will be able to collect, level, and battle with companion pets.
•It will be accessible to all players.
•Works with almost every pet
•Pet Customization, you will be able to name your pet, give them visual abilities, etc ...
•There will be "Wild pets", you can find them in the world and engage in battle with them. You will then be able to get that pet and add it to your Pet Journal.
•Pets have random stats, some of them will be very good at tanking, some will have a CC ability, etc ...
•Some pets will only be found during a specific season, while it's raining, or during the day or the night. Some of them will only spawn in the spring, when it's raining, in elwynn forest at night!
•Most pets will become tradable, even after it's leveled, etc ...
•Pets will be account wide

and there's your pokemon. As mentioned above. Cut and paste.

Meowth · **Posted:** Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:38 pm

Aestu wrote:

Meowth wrote:

Removing auto attack doesn't change much of anything. Abilities will hit slightly harder instead, so what? It even helps show who is the better player 10-20% of their damage isn't basically free.

Arcane mage is hard
Also see: Vanilla Stormstrike

Standing in one place is also hard. But this one time a boss actually did something where you had to move multiple times.

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