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 Post subject: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:15 am  
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...I have taken my own advice and have sunk further and further back into the world of retro-gaming.

I found Gog.com, and was browsing a number of titles I had never even heard of before. From free to an exorbitant $5.99 ea, they offer many times the content and quality of modern games, providing you have a sufficiently powerful system to play them (most require a clock speed of 75MHz or greater, but they seem to run fine on my 4MHz machine).

One caught my eye:
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/beneath_a_steel_sky

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FOREWORD BY THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE UNION SECURITY COUNCIL
The council is proud of the achievement of the security forces in promoting the interests
of the Union Group. It is your fight against subversion that has allowed continued
recovery.

Over the last year market share has again increased despite production restrictions
due to mineral shortages. The acquisition of Asio-City makes the Union Group
the second largest of the six remaining city states and represents the capitulation of
the last non corporate city.

The quality of the air being re-cycled within the protection dome that encases the
city continues to improve. The predictions made last century about deteriorating public
health due to ecological poisoning has been proved to be untrue. Even the toxic air
outside the dome in ‘the Gap’ has not deteriorated beyond the point of supporting human
life.

Security in the Gap has been a top priority. After pre-emptive strikes against random
Gap villages, there has been a marked increase in community taxation receipts
and a reduction in economically damaging ‘scavenging’ raids.

The Hobart corporation continues the abhorrent market policies eradicated
decades ago in the Union Group. Their discredited policies of labour representation
and social benefits for the ‘needy’ contradicts the basic neo democratic principles
agreed on cessation of hostilities of the Great Euro-American war. Since the LINC
computer system was assigned control of all city functions twenty years ago, a
determined economic war has been waged, and is being won, against Hobart which
has consistently sought to undermine the foundations of our success.

We can congratulate ourselves on another successful year. And, as always, be
vigilant, be alert.


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that has allowed continued recovery
...be vigilant, be alert.

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release date: April 11, 1994


How unsettlingly prescient.

Anyway, it's all very interesting. I don't see myself buying new releases anytime soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:34 am  
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gog is fantastic.

Also, it seems as though I need this game. I hadn't even given it a look.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:43 pm  
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Lately I'm playing this bad Civilization spinoff/clone - Call to Power 2.

Apparently, some people took interest in the game, and Activision was uncharacteristically cool enough to make the code open-source, so they released an enhanced AI and a few other tweaks - the highest difficulty level is decently challenging now, although it does still suffer from much more choppy game pacing, less intelligent/compelling AI, and poorer immersion/sense of distance than the Civ series.

What it has on the plus side is more interesting terrain and government options. Civ-series games have three tiers, but CTP2 adds two more tiers:

T1: Tyranny/Anarchy
T2: Republic/Monarchy/Theocracy
T3: Democracy/Communism/Fascism
T4: Corporate Republic/Technocracy
T5: Virtual Democracy/Ecotopia

The in-game library is not as well written as that in Sid Meier games (ofc), but it nonetheless describes the historical process in a surprisingly plausible way (and remarkably close to the 10 years of history that have transpired since it was published).

I also like how the environmental model works - it's significantly more aggressively tuned than in the Civ series. Towards endgame, it becomes necessary to attenuate production and shift to agriculture/service to prevent industry from causing more pollution than the production is worth. Ideally, you plant a ton of farms and forests and a much smaller number of very large mines, then shorten the workday, increase rations and cut wages so you can run a service economy. Or you can just run heavy industry and plow the gains back into cleanup. It's a clever if somewhat crude system, not as detailed as SMAC's work-of-genius environmental engine.

Anyway, it's fun. I did make one change to the scripting, removing Emancipation Proclamation - I find the game is more fun without it.



It's interesting to note that the Jews are in every scene of the intro.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:03 pm  
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Star Control 2. Greatest game of all time.

Edit: It was also open sourced a while back, and made free. The original version is on Gog for a nominal fee. The free/open source version is re-titled "The Ur-Quan Masters" but is the exact same game, same graphics, same audio, etc.

p.s.... cameo.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:50 am  
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I second SC2 as literally the best game ever made.

UQM is a must-download.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:01 am  
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Third for SC2. I remember wasting an entire summer playing SC2 after buying it in some Walmart combo-pack.

Didn't know about UQM... downloading now. Thanks.
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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:31 am  
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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:17 pm  
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o hlo grmgr.. man poly?

p.s. UQM Super Melee added support for TCP connections... anyone wanna melee?


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:22 pm  
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Def down but I have no idea how to set it up.

Image

OP in super melee imo, and one of the most interesting races, it's too bad they never got fleshed out in the intended sequel =/


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:11 pm  
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The androsynth were certainly interesting in the story line (they did kinda get swept under the rug by the Orz, who were awesome on their own way) but the Utwig were literally unstoppable in super melee if played properly.

I do think the Chmmr coming into being is one of the most awesome things ever.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
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So, since when did the Ilwrath show up immediately after leaving the space colony outside Earth? They said they passed the UQ probe and it gave off my location... and then while trying to figure out the melee controls, I got killed. :[

A bit OP of a match-up that early in the game. The fuck...
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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:24 pm  
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That particular Ilwrath ship lacks a cloaking device and bunch of crew... use the earthling ship, not the main ship. I think the right side control and shift are default fire controls, arrow keys navigate. Keep your distance from the Ilwrath ship, and fire the primary weapon (control). Should fire seeker missiles, two shots should bring it down.


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:28 pm  
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I just reinstalled UQM. I'm using an Xbox360 controller. UQM recognizes it automatically, but it is necessary to configure the binds manually.

If you haven't played in a while, there is a very humbling relearning period. I'm having the same experience. GG playing trivial games too long.

And yeah, Chmrr are a study in the power of really good voice acting. TBC was awesome for the same reason, imo. (Even if the Naaru were never quite as awesome as the Chenjesu).


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
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What are your thoughts on the Druuge?


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 Post subject: Re: Because Modern Games Suck
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:11 pm  
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CentauriFox wrote:
o hlo grmgr.. man poly?



yes pls. i would even bring clax.
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