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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:28 pm  
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Rather than string some quotes, I'll just say that I clearly said who cares if she's straight or gay? I certainly don't think it matters, and that was my initial point of this... questioning why this would be one of the big arguments against her when there are so many other doubts. It's comical that her supporters have produced a former classmate who is defending Kagan as straight. Honestly, who cares? I also don't question her education which I also cited. However, I can't help but think that even if you exclude all white men because they're white men, that there must be many women and men who can bring more experience to the table than Kagan.

This poopy is too important, imo, to pick someone based simply on diversity. It's funny that her supporters are citing her lack of experience as a positive thing, but when Bush nominated Harriet Miers, all hell broke loose from the left for this very reason. Justices are supposed to interpret the law. They don't have to like them. Her banning of the military from Harvard because they were obeying the law pretty much said it all. The point is not whether she agreed with the law, but her retribution against those who were abiding by it.

I certainly hope she gets the confirmation process she championed in 1995. Kagan: “it is an embarrassment” that the president and Senate do not always insist that a nominee’s accomplishments provide evidence of “an ability not merely to handle but to master the ‘craft’ aspects of being a judge.” In the end, none of this means she won't be a great justice, but I think she's been chosen because she's close to Obama, not because she's the most qualified he could find.

BTW... thanks to you all for knocking this around. This is the kind of thing that would have been nuked very quickly. Glad FUBU is here.


i think that selecting positions based on diversity is a trend that is happening in all parts of america, not just the legislative system. i posted earlier on the BH forums about how my MCAT scores were ivy league level, but i couldn't get into a decent medical school because of my degree in biology, which is deemed, "typical of medical school applicants". meanwhile, several individuals i went to college with who got pisspoor grades and bullshit MCAT scores got into harvard, northwestern, and johns hopkins based on the fact that they were english majors, or some bullshit foreign language major. i had to go back to school to get a second goddamn degree just to be less of an expert on what doctors should be. also, if you look at current application processes for most universities, they care more about how shitty of a place you came from rather than your grades. it seems that lately, america is under the impression that you have more to bring to the table if you've "suffered" more. i wrote a fucking TS Eliot level entrance essay to the university of wisconsin's nursing program about how i was a nurse in iraq and afghanistan, did combat casualty care, got blown up etc etc, (not in a self-serving manner, mind you) and i got WAIT LISTED. i was the salutatorian in HS, got a 30 on the ACT, am a multi-war veteran, and my little brother tells me his friend got into UW nursing school based solely on the fact that he wrote his essay on how he was in a Multi-Cultural club that did funny skits for highschool students. i might be a tad, jaded about this, but i hope you see my point.


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clearly you should have written your essay more in the style of bukowski
then you would've gotten in


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Not that i give a shit about gay people in office. We have a tranny in office here, as well as a pedo (actually he might've just been someone who assaulted kids not sexually, fuck if i know), and our Former PM was a man posing as a woman (with a gay fake husband).


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TBH all the judges i've been in front of or read about are more arbitrators than law interpreters. "OBJECTION OVERRULED" and shit, hten they let the jury decide.

kagan certainly has the credentials, and she certainly has a lot of experience as an administrator.

however, with her education and stuff, I think I'm ok with the choice, as long as she continues interpreting the law according to the law and not the law according to her morals/agenda.


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there, now this thread's complete.
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Lesbians and softball go together like peanut butter and jelly.
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Takeshi wrote:
Lesbians and softball go together like peanut butter and jelly.


do you eat your PB&Js like Stephen Colbert too?
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Kamguh wrote:
Takeshi wrote:
Lesbians and softball go together like peanut butter and jelly.


do you eat your PB&Js like Stephen Colbert too?


I don't even eat the bread.
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I am oddly ambivalent about the manish dyke (is that an offensive term? most of the lesbians I know refer to themselves thusly...) and her nomination. What I'm waiting for is the shitstorm that ensues when a handful of republicans remember their eight years in the sun and drag the thing out kicking and screaming as payback for all the grief the World's Worst Republican's nominees had to go through.

That will, of course, be promptly followed by democrats (feigning) outrage at any opposition, because they will have conveniently and completely forgotten behaving similarly themselves. This will continue the perpetual cycle of the party out of power acting like asshats while the party in power hypocritically derides them for doing exactly what they did when they were in that position.

Trickle down did work in the 80s, but it's not the 80s anymore. I believe tax cuts would go a long way toward improving our economic situation, however, if applied as part of an overall plan of ending entitlements, shrinking spending, reducing and/or eliminate huge chunks of the federal payroll, and legalizing activities/products currently illegal for strictly moral/cultural reasons while placing a luxury-type tax on those the way we do on alcohol and cigarettes. I also believe we should either switch to the fairtax (fairtax.org, if you're not in the know, the system I'd prefer), or go to a flat tax where everyone actually does pay their "fair share," as based on the actual meanings of the words "fair" and "share."

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Jubbergun wrote:
legalizing activities/products currently illegal for strictly moral/cultural reasons while placing a luxury-type tax on those the way we do on alcohol and cigarettes.


legalize prostitution ktnx


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Zaryi wrote:
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legalizing activities/products currently illegal for strictly moral/cultural reasons while placing a luxury-type tax on those the way we do on alcohol and cigarettes.


legalize prostitution ktnx


and pot too

I always found it funny though, I can spend money indirectly to fuck (if I was loaded, expensive gifts, since I'm not, alcohol at a bar) but I can't skip all the bullshit and just make an appointment and pay her directly.

Makes sense.

You can have sex sell, but you can't sell sex.

I always find it too, that generally (read: NOT ALWAYS) the only people opposed to alcohol, smoking, etc (being used/done by others), are religious. It turns basically into, they want the state to bend to their religion. You need more Separation to use that ability.

Anyway, I am probably waaaaaaaaaaay off topic with this post. So I'm just going to have to say, to stay partly on track, that I don't understand why we're considering making a bulldog a judge. I mean, a bulldog is going to favor strongly for mice and discriminate against cats.

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i am pro legalization of pot just for the sake of people no longer talking about legalizing pot


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rikkilake wrote:
i am pro legalization of pot just for the sake of people no longer talking about legalizing pot


Legalize it, tax it the way we do booze/cigs, and bam universal healthcare is paid for.


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I wrote a paper I'm fairly pleased with about the way Separation of Church(es) and State works in France.

The way their law works, essentially, is god(s) and the regalia/visible signs of their official fanclubs have no right to exist in public spaces. The exception is that church bells are allowed to ring, provided the time is set by a state official and not a clergyman.


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Yuratuhl wrote:
The way their law works, essentially, is god(s) and the regalia/visible signs of their official fanclubs have no right to exist in public spaces. The exception is that church bells are allowed to ring, provided the time is set by a state official and not a clergyman.


inc the south + atlantic sea board coming to your house to tar and feather you. but it's a good idea.

oh, and probably the aclu too.


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