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edit: renamed because the discussion changed pretty dramatically.

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I think very on end turns out to be pretty dumb, regardless of which end.

This calls for an anecdote though.

Yesterday, I saw a car with a big lawn sign stuffed in their back window for Tom Emmer.

If you're not from Minnesota, you're going "who"? He's the Republican candidate for MN Governor.

The funny thing is, the sign completely blocks up the back window... which is illegal for a number of reasons.

This raises a new line of inquiry:
Why do such smart people come up with such dumb ideas?





I think what this article/"research" is meant to imply is that 'liberal' is the natural conclusion to reach if you're at least moderately intelligent. I think it is more likely that it is only natural that people of such intelligence identify in such a fashion because the majority of them are going to end up in places at some point in their life where the majority view, whether it is intelligent or not, is liberal...like colleges and universities, as an example.

I also like how 106-ish is presented as some mark of uber-intelligence. I tested at 136 in the 8th Grade, and that was back when I was a dumb kid who thought 'liberal'='smart.' Speaking of dumb kids, this measure was taken "in early adulthood," and isn't indicative of how these views will be defined and re-defined by said intelligence after it has more experience than just high school and college. I think it was Churchill who said, "If you're a conservative when you're 18, you have no heart. If you're a liberal when you're 40, you have no head."

It was also amusing that there was mention of differing intelligences, and sticks with the outdated IQ model that people who actually use these sort of measures laugh at the way the rest of society laughs people who still use cassette tapes.

In short, dumb article about smart.

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Y'know for a group of happy-lovey-everyone's welcome-types like liberals, they sure are prejudiced against conservatives.

I agree with this sentiment.

When I was younger I identified as more liberal leaning, borderline socialist..now that I've slipped through the cracks of all the programs and support agencies and interventions I formerly supported I am adamantly opposed to excessive government.

The more the government grows, the worse it will be. Mark my words.


Freedom and liberty are what this country was founded on. Nothing else. Anytime the government steps in and says 'no you can't do that' I feel intense rage and anger building up.

Not so much for things such as murder and rape and theft, but for stupid mundane details of our lives.

Compulsory education, brainwashing children to conform to a certain ideology en masse in the public school system, for example.


I'd rather have a child who could give me a good reason against saying the pledge to the flag than a mindless drone reciting memorized poetry for reasons that are unclear to them.



This is why my children will be educated at home away from religious crazies, ghetto kids who fight all day and steal lunch money, nasty bitchy teenage whores, overzealous teachers more concerned about passing students to avoid reprimands than actually learning.

All too often, kids are just shuttled through the grades, through the schools...memorizing stupid facts that will never be of use and without having any knowledge of how to apply the concepts in a practical everyday scenario.


So yeah, I'll be paying tax dollars for my kids to NOT be enrolled in public schools...gg.

Brawlsack

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I'm sending mine to school because I'd rather they not rely on me to teach them stuff I have no business teaching. Unless you're the most versatile person in the world, there are subjects they will surpass you in by the time they're 14.

And there's no doubt tons of shit we all forgot.

I went to public school. I loved public school. If I live in a nice residential area when I have kids, they're also going to public school.

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I agree with jubber completely, which is scary and rare.

Home school always seems like a dumb idea to me. Same with private schools. I know people say the public schools are "bad" but thats because everyone says that, pulls their kids out of the schools and then any potential support that the family could have given to the school is lost. Fundraiser money is gone, statistics are read and politicians say "less kids in school=less money for schools" and so the problem worsens.

Not all public schools suck, the ones i went to where good, with involved active communities. I think if someone is home schooled they miss out on so many opportunities. If they are schooled at home, they arent exposed to as many ideas/people as they would at a public school and so then will form different or distorted opinions based on their parents opinions. You also take away the other kids who can contribute alot, friends study budies etc.

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I went to public school, one of the top 100 in the nation.

that makes me weep irl.

Knowledge is a dangerous thing.

And you base that opinion that they will miss out on opportunities and not make any friends and grow up to be socially awkward serial rapists on everyone else's insistence of this being the case.

It's bullshit tired old rhetoric.

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

Which is why mass producing genius level children capable of abstract thought and thinking for themselves will never happen.

Brawlsack

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Cut out the serial rapist bit and it doesn't seem that far off the mark.

Social ill-effects of homeschooling aside, I'm well educated, but I don't think for a second that means I'm any good at teaching kids what I know. Did I do well all the way through a good high school? Sure. Doesn't mean I'm automatically a good teacher, nor do I know terribly much about lesson plans and at what age a kid can retain what kinds of information.

My parents are both genuinely brilliant people, but they didn't convince themselves they were better at laying educational foundations than teachers.

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I think homeschooling is a good idea for the disruptive mother fuckers that won't amount to anything ANYWAY who ruin the classroom for the people who will at least have the potential to eventually make something of themselves.

Since this is now about homeschooling and I was homeschooled from grade 5 on, I feel I can make a somewhat valid argument for it.

Usd, you're partially correct - homeschooling is great for those types, but it's also great for the kids too smart for a class room, like myself and most of my friends who were also homeschooled.. I tested out of highschool in 5th grade (when I got pulled out), and pretty much given the freedom to study what I wanted when I was pulled out. There were both advantages and disadvantages to it - we're really good at what we wanted to learn, computer programming, math, physics, english, polisci, etc; but we all have some major gaps in other areas that never really piqued our interest.

On the social aspect, there's a pretty big divide among the homeschooling community in this area. The group of kids who where pulled out of public school and then were homeschooled are 'normal'. Those who've been homeschooled since the beginning are definitely odd - and it often seems to be a fault of their parents, not themselves.

Also, homeschooling is a bit of a misnomer, at least in how my group of friends and I were taught - we worked extensively with tutors. It's definitely a great way to approach education for those wanting to do a bit more than have their kids taught to the ACT/SATS.