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Ask Japan what they've done about letter mail. I think you missed what I mentioned about just legalizing competition.


I'm aware of that. And I don't see any reason to rock the boat. The quality of the status quo is testament to the power of orthodox approaches. I'm really not dying to know if I can pay twenty cents less to mail a letter without the postal system becoming less than drop-dead reliable.

Ask California what they did with their power grid.

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APersonal liberty is a more defined philosophy than blunt term "true freedom". Limiting government from liberty infringement isn't always about limiting the current person in charge of making the rules, it's also about limiting who might be the NEXT person in charge making the rules. Fear of "what could happen" is a common tactic used nowadays too, "surrender your freedoms or the terrorists will you get you", "surrender your rights to compete with the government for business or else bad things could happen".


Mmhmm.

Hence my point that "Drug abusers aren't the putative subjects of a Lockesian debate, they're individuals who do great harm to those around them." But then again, I tend to be more authoritarian than most - I tend to believe the state should have a much greater role in stabilizing society.

[url=http://www.umb.edu/news/entry/umass_boston_names_juan_nunez_as_new_chief_diversity_officer/]Ironically enough, I am in the process of starting a controversy about this and hoping I don't get expelled.
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Thanks for the respectful debate by the way.


I feel you.


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I think society makes them that way.

And so you have what we do today, with a low level of political and philosophical discourse, a downward spiral in people's level of intelligence and education, and an increasingly foolish and apathetic populace like something out of Fahrenheit 451.


You want to implement far reaching changes in societal structure yet you damn the foundation you're building on. I hope that point is a bit more direct.


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Tehra wrote:
You want to implement far reaching changes in societal structure yet you damn the foundation you're building on. I hope that point is a bit more direct.


I am the exception that proves the rule. I usually tell people I was raised in a parallel universe, and they usually believe me.


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Aestu wrote:
Tehra wrote:
You want to implement far reaching changes in societal structure yet you damn the foundation you're building on. I hope that point is a bit more direct.


I am the exception that proves the rule. I usually tell people I was raised in a parallel universe, and they usually believe me.


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Aestu wrote:
But then again, I tend to be more authoritarian than most - I tend to believe the state should have a much greater role in stabilizing society.


but would you or wouldn't you pre-emptively strike Orgrimmar because Garrosh Hellscream taking over the Horde is most definitely a threat to stability not only to the region.. but to the world... of warcraft.


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In most cases, the state destabilizes society when it attempts to assume the roles and functions that stabilized society in the first place.

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i'm pretty sure potheads are breeding and making our species more susceptible to mental illness/behavioral disorders. look at all the kids on antidepressants and antipsychotics.

i blame woodstock.


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i'm pretty sure potheads are breeding and making our species more susceptible to mental illness/behavioral disorders. look at all the kids on antidepressants and antipsychotics.

i blame woodstock.


couldn't possibly be all the other chemicals made by man.


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Tehra wrote:
Dotzilla wrote:
i'm pretty sure potheads are breeding and making our species more susceptible to mental illness/behavioral disorders. look at all the kids on antidepressants and antipsychotics.

i blame woodstock.


couldn't possibly be all the other chemicals made by man.


It also couldn't be our society's demand for quick fixes via prescriptions either.

Also, psychology has only been treated as a science for something like 100 or so years. EDIT: Meaning that new disorders are found constantly.


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Psychology is a psuedoscience.


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Get out of the closet, Tom Cruise.

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Weed is a Gateway Drug.


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I actually agree with Aestu, for once. o/

Also, if Psychologists weren't diagnosing everyone with bullshit ailments then those people wouldn't be looking for the quick-fix drug.
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Euphonic wrote:
Weed is a Gateway Drug.



false.
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Euphonic wrote:
Weed is a Gateway Drug.


Insanely false.

I tried/still smoke weed and have never done any other drugs (despite having opportunities to do coke, LSD, shrooms, etc).


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