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Only partially related to what led me to post this thread, but why can't women seem to understand that if there is a guy interested in her, and she thinks he's nice but just isn't interested for whatever reason, that it's actually not nice to try to be his friend?

I've talked to two girls about this subject in the past week or so and neither of them could comprehend that while she might want to be his friend (because he's a nice guy), he doesn't want to be her friend. In fact, in that situation, the guy is actually being hurt every time he has to see the girl knowing he can't have her.

And it's absolutely the worst to have that girl then come to him complaining about the asshole she IS dating, because they are wont to say "I wish other guys were nice like you."


Idk girls are dumb.


So why does the guy get in to a friendship he doesn't want to be in? What is she supposed to do, run away from him when she sees him? He's the one that likes her, it's his problem. If she doesn't want a relationship and he can't handle friendship then it's his responsibility to not have a friendship with her.

This goes both ways too. The most shining example of this for me is of a girl to a friend of mine. She likes him, he doesn't reciprocate those feelings. He's told her on several occasions he only wants friendship from her, not a relationship. Yet like a year later she thinks he will start to magically like her or something.

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Idk girls are dumb.


What's worse is how they lie...but they do it in such a subtle way.

Throughout my time dating I have realized the signals women give that mean they aren't interested anymore. Unfortunately, I had to learn to interpret these signals, since women are most often incapable of simply saying, "I'm not into you anymore" or "this isn't going to work out"

You know what they do? You say "hey let's chill"

Then they say "sure, we should definitely chill"

Then you say "are you free on [specific date]"

Then they say "Oh I'm busy"

Then you say "Oh okay, what about [other specific date]"

Then they say "Oh, bah I'm just so busy!"

Then you say "Okay, well let me know when you're free"

Then they say "Definitely! We need to catch up soon :) "


Then they never call you/ text you.

Wouldn't it just be easier to be honest rather than lying and saying "yeah we should hang out" when they don't actually want to? Am I crazy?


They're being polite. Guys do it too, I've done it. Like when a girl tells you she has a boyfriend, too!

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Also, he's right, women are bat shit crazy.

But you like cuddling...


u gay brah?

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They're being polite. Guys do it too, I've done it. Like when a girl tells you she has a boyfriend, too!


It's like Dek said, sometimes it's better to just be honest than polite. Case and point:
I went on a few dates with a girl, she was really into me...but I just didn't like her like that.

When she started texting me wanting me to come over for dinner etc. rather than drag it on and on, I simply told her "I just don't see us being anything more than friends."

She even said she appreciated my honesty.

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Azelma wrote:
Also, he's right, women are bat shit crazy.

But you like cuddling...


u gay brah?

unless I'm trying to sleep


I really fail to see what's wrong with cuddling. Society says after sexual activity, as a man, I'm supposed to be an emotional wall...I should simply roll over and be like "nite bitch, thanks for the quickie"

I happen to like...idk, enjoying her company after having some fun sexy times. This makes me gay?

This shows you exactly why relationships between women and men are so fucked up these days...too much pressure, too many expectations.


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Azelma wrote:
Quittermike wrote:
They're being polite. Guys do it too, I've done it. Like when a girl tells you she has a boyfriend, too!


It's like Dek said, sometimes it's better to just be honest than polite. Case and point:
I went on a few dates with a girl, she was really into me...but I just didn't like her like that.

When she started texting me wanting me to come over for dinner etc. rather than drag it on and on, I simply told her "I just don't see us being anything more than friends."

She even said she appreciated my honesty.

Quittermike wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
Azelma wrote:
Also, he's right, women are bat shit crazy.

But you like cuddling...


u gay brah?

unless I'm trying to sleep


I really fail to see what's wrong with cuddling. Society says after sexual activity, as a man, I'm supposed to be an emotional wall...I should simply roll over and be like "nite bitch, thanks for the quickie"

I happen to like...idk, enjoying her company after having some fun sexy times. This makes me gay?

This shows you exactly why relationships between women and men are so fucked up these days...too much pressure, too many expectations.


I think Mike was defending you. In which case, yeah that guy's gay


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Quittermike wrote:
dek wrote:
Only partially related to what led me to post this thread, but why can't women seem to understand that if there is a guy interested in her, and she thinks he's nice but just isn't interested for whatever reason, that it's actually not nice to try to be his friend?

I've talked to two girls about this subject in the past week or so and neither of them could comprehend that while she might want to be his friend (because he's a nice guy), he doesn't want to be her friend. In fact, in that situation, the guy is actually being hurt every time he has to see the girl knowing he can't have her.

And it's absolutely the worst to have that girl then come to him complaining about the asshole she IS dating, because they are wont to say "I wish other guys were nice like you."


Idk girls are dumb.


So why does the guy get in to a friendship he doesn't want to be in? What is she supposed to do, run away from him when she sees him? He's the one that likes her, it's his problem. If she doesn't want a relationship and he can't handle friendship then it's his responsibility to not have a friendship with her.

This goes both ways too. The most shining example of this for me is of a girl to a friend of mine. She likes him, he doesn't reciprocate those feelings. He's told her on several occasions he only wants friendship from her, not a relationship. Yet like a year later she thinks he will start to magically like her or something.


Oh, certainly it's also his fault for walking into the situation, but it's a scenario where she is holding the power and he's emotionally vulnerable. A guy that has experienced this before will excuse himself from it, but someone who doesn't know better might think that it's not a problem, or might think that he can change her mind.

But the point is that a lot of girls apparently have no idea that the guy has feelings as well.


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If girls pull the "oh wait I can't I'm busy," tell them: I am also busy. In the future, instead of making time for you, I'll just wait and see if the time is available since I can't rely on you prioritize commitments you make to me.

Sentences like this send several messages that generally result positively for you:
1)Your time, and by extension, you, are too important to waste on her dumbassery. This is confident and assertive and therefore appealing to the majority of women.
2)You're not concerned enough about her to deal with a lot of bullshit. This is a manipulative ego-buster. She will wonder (even if only subconsciously) why she isn't good enough for you to tolerate her bullshit. If she has any interest in you at all, this will make her try harder. If she could care less, she'll tell you that's probably for the best...maybe, she might still be self-conscious and try harder anyway since so many women have self-image issues.
3) It implies that your values reflect the importance of keeping commitments to others, which most normal people will find appealing. It also implies that she does not share those values. If she has any interest in you or concern for your opinion, she'll probably apologize and make it a point to keep any commitments she makes to you in the future. She'll probably also make an immediate new commitment of some type to demonstrate this as fast as possible.
4)It gives the impression, true or not, that you think you are extending a courtesy to her by taking time to spend with her. It establishes your confidence you have in your position in your relationship. It implies that there are other people who may be more worthy of your time (in her mind, other women). This also plays on self-image and spurs her to show you she is worth the effort.

In short, be a dick...but be a respectful/respectable dick. "Being nice" doesn't get you anywhere with women.

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Azelma wrote:
I happen to like...idk, enjoying her company after having some fun sexy times. This makes me gay?


No, the cocksucking makes you gay.


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dek wrote:
Azelma wrote:
I happen to like...idk, enjoying her company after having some fun sexy times. This makes me gay?


No, the cocksucking makes you gay.


Burn.


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I can't for the life of me remember his name right now, but there was a druid in Reverence that sounded so much like McGurk, everytime he talked that all I could think about.


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Quittermike wrote:
unless I'm trying to sleep


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MOTHERFUCKING FURNACE MODE


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Dvergar wrote:
I can't for the life of me remember his name right now, but there was a druid in Reverence that sounded so much like McGurk, everytime he talked that all I could think about.


There was some guy hordeside who sounds exactly like him too. Now everytime he sees me he starts calling me Brendon and tells me to get Melissa off the field. Love those guys :D



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unless I'm trying to sleep


Quittermike wrote:
MOTHERFUCKING FURNACE MODE

So true.


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Dvergar wrote:
I can't for the life of me remember his name right now, but there was a druid in Reverence that sounded so much like McGurk, everytime he talked that all I could think about.


Spyrodin?


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Callysta wrote:
Spyrodin?


Nokturnal. I don't think I ever talked to spyro, I recall his first few raid performances being outstandingly disappointing.


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