myrrar wrote:
The recruitment issue is a very real thing at the top tier of raiding right now. With 10 man content offering the exact same rewards as 25, people are more apt to form up in 10 man guilds locally, rather than server transfer/faction change to take a shot being an app at a major guild like ours. Again, we would have been fine if we didnt lose so many people. I realize a lot of your guilds are getting apps, but please don't take this as an arrogant jab or anything like that, but I would assume most of those players weren't capable, or skilled enough to raid on a US/World competative level for whatever reason. Its a bit different when you're a hardcore progression guild; the skill level required for recruits is much much higher.
A lot of people hated us on this server, and are glad to see us gone.. and I personally don't care. Sure, some TB players were arrogant fucks, and dicks a lot of the time, but not all of us were. I dunno, I may be pretty mean sometimes but if any resto druid messaged me asking for gemming/gearing/spec advice, I'd gladly give it. Either way, the few of you I've had the pleasure of interacting with, its been fun.
TL;DR
Peace.
The thing I don't understand is how you could miss so badly with recruits that you did get (as evidenced by the farewell post placing loads of blame on "bad recruits")?
I refuse to believe that there is such a void of talent on this server, or in the entire pool of WoW players, that a top end raiding guild could no longer exist.
With gear, and a friendly, but focused environment, most players who are competent can achieve, even over-achieve. The fact that the demise was partly blamed on "no good recruits" seems like a cop-out to me.
This is why I wonder about the culture of your guild...perhaps new recruits never felt welcome? Perhaps the spirit of elitism wasn't embraced by all? The fact that other top guilds still remain with WoW's current player base leads me to believe that there was something wrong at the core of TB.
What happened with these recruits? They obviously had decent gear. They obviously had promising applications and performed well in their vent interviews....then what? They just all of a sudden sucked? Didn't you guys do trial runs with them? They must have done well in those runs in order for them to get a spot in the guild? Right?
It's like head coaching...if you hire an assistant, and then the team fails to perform, a quick fix is to fire that assistant. To me, I think you are the one who should be fired, because YOU were the one who decided that the assistant was good and would be a good fit. To blame all the teams' issues on bad assistants is disingenuous at best. Likewise with blaming the death of a guild on a "lack of recruits" or "bad recruits."
TL;DR
Attitude (and achievement) reflects leadership.