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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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This. There are plenty of places, probably right in your own city, where you are wise not to go (Day be rapin' everybody up in hera). The real bottom line is that people who put themselves in compromising situations enough times will eventually pay a price for it. And, I read that she intends to get right back to it when she recovers. Good for her. I guess dodging rape and murder wasn't close enough to the fire for her. Those hoodlums can't scare her! What a dumbass. I think people like her are addicted to the adrenaline rush, much like soldiers who repeatedly re-up. So, while maybe no one is ever "asking" for it, Lara Logan is coming about as close to asking for it as you can get.


Journalists who cover volatile situations like this obviously have a higher tolerance for risk than most people, but what's wrong with that? If you're doing something you love a bit of risk isn't necessarily a bad tradeoff.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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If you're doing something you love a bit of risk isn't necessarily a bad tradeoff.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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You can't be a winner without taking a gamble, but not every gamble pays off. This is also why the best, do, in fact, die young.

Refusing to be bold is pusillanimous.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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"Yeah, getting assaulted and not-quite-raped was her fault."

Really, guy? Wait, forget that. You actually are one of those "she was asking for it" kind of people.

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Lara Logan is coming about as close to asking for it as you can get.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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"Yeah, getting assaulted and not-quite-raped was her fault."

Really, guy? Wait, forget that. You actually are one of those "she was asking for it" kind of people.

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Lara Logan is coming about as close to asking for it as you can get.


Pretty much this. No one here is claiming that Egypt is safe...clearly there are risks in being a on site reporter in the middle east...really any place where there is conflict.

However, to say that she should have expected it makes me uneasy.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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she was in the middle of a mob and got beat up.


shit happens after soccer matches in europe and march madness in america. taking your NATION BACK probably gets peoples blood up to levels we've never seen.


no one could have expected it, but it shouldn't have happened anyway.


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Yuratuhl wrote:
"Yeah, getting assaulted and not-quite-raped was her fault."
Really, guy? Wait, forget that. You actually are one of those "she was asking for it" kind of people.
Boredalt wrote:
Lara Logan is coming about as close to asking for it as you can get.


I specifically stated: "I'm certainly not saying anyone deserves anything like this." I can assure you that I am not in any way a person who believes that anyone does anything that makes them deserve to be assaulted in any way. Lara Logan did not deserve to be attacked. But I am the "kind of people" who think that people should use common sense, and anyone with the smallest amount of common sense can surmise that the risky situations she puts herself in will finally result in something terrible happening. I just don't understand the shock and disbelief that runs through the reports. She is not responsible for what happened to her, but she is certainly responsible for the decision she made to put herself in danger. What she did was stupid.

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If you're doing something you love a bit of risk isn't necessarily a bad tradeoff.


I agree with this. You should just be willing to accept some responsibility if the risk doesn't pan out. And, after some thought, Logan is apparently willing to accept the risks since she knows the dog bites but she intends to keep petting him. She says she's going back as soon as she recovers. I guess I just don't understand this mentality. I also think it is important to note that I've seen nothing from Logan asking for pity or feigning ignorance to the risks of her job.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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So what, she should just say "oh shucks"? Ridiculous, she's entitled to respond in the manner appropriate to what happened.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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So what, she should just say "oh shucks"? Ridiculous, she's entitled to respond in the manner appropriate to what happened.



I'm saying she still doesn't seem to be questioning her line of work, even after this.

Kind of this:

"This is also why the best, do, in fact, die young." I would also add that a lot of the stupid die young, as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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So we're annoyed that she's not complaining in the slightest and will be going back to work immediately. Right.

I'm impressed that she's devoted to her job, so few people are.


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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Unlike journalists and the majority of people that travel to the south side of Chicago, I usually don't go places where I'm plainly unwelcome unless there's a damn good reason.

I am no longer in the physical condition where "a damn good reason" means that it's a bad idea to remind me I'm unwelcome once I'm there.

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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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Boredalt wrote:
Aestu wrote:
So what, she should just say "oh shucks"? Ridiculous, she's entitled to respond in the manner appropriate to what happened.


I'm saying she still doesn't seem to be questioning her line of work, even after this.
Kind of this:
"This is also why the best, do, in fact, die young." I would also add that a lot of the stupid die young, as well.


Why should she "question" her line of work? Yeah, it's dangerous. That doesn't mean it's not worthwhile.

Like I said, it's pusillanimous to languish in mediocrity and the status quo for fear of something not working out or someone getting hurt. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Here are some "questions" for you, Boredalt:
Would you be raising these points if she were not a woman but a man?
Would you be raising these points if she were not a reporter but a soldier?
Would you be raising these points if she were not harmed but accomplished her goals and escaped potential danger?
Would you be raising these points if she were not seeking to play a role in a foreign revolution but in a struggle against a hated enemy (e.g., Al Qaeda terrorists, etc)?


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 Post subject: Re: Lara Logan played with fire....
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Yuratuhl wrote:
So we're annoyed that she's not complaining in the slightest and will be going back to work immediately. Right.

I'm impressed that she's devoted to her job, so few people are.



No. I, too, am impressed that she seems to be the real deal. Initially, I complained that she should have known something would eventually happen, as if she was acting like a surprised victim. She’s not. I still think she was stupid. I still think she made a bad decision. But her response makes me realize that she did understand the dangers, and she accepted/accepts it.

Now, I'm actually more annoyed at all the people who are trying to use her to publicly show everyone how sympathetic/sensitive they are, from news organizations to celebrities to fellow reporters to the president. According to the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights, 98% of non-Egyptian women are [at least] sexually harassed in Egypt. I realize the difference in harassed and assaulted, but I wonder if anyone is tweeting, calling, facebooking any of them.


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Would you be raising these points if she were not a woman but a man?


Ugh. I admit that I feel differently because she’s a woman, but my point that she should have been aware of the danger, and should accept some responsibility for her safety stands whether we are talking about her or Anderson Cooper being assaulted.

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Would you be raising these points if she were not a reporter but a soldier?


I think the difference here is that she voluntarily put(s) herself into danger while soldiers follow orders. So, no.

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Would you be raising these points if she were not harmed but accomplished her goals and escaped potential danger?


No, I don’t think so, because her attack made it a story.

Aestu wrote:
Would you be raising these points if she were not seeking to play a role in a foreign revolution but in a struggle against a hated enemy (e.g., Al Qaeda terrorists, etc)?


Yes. She’s been in Afghanistan, as well, among other places where revolution wasn’t the story. I believe these journalists often put themselves unnecessarily in harm’s way more to one-up other reporters than to get a story. Nir Rosen’s comments regarding Anderson Cooper and Logan were insensitive, but I’ll bet there’s some underlying truth in what he's implying about her motivations. She’s not playing a role in anything. She’s making a name for herself by reporting on those playing the roles from whatever hot spot she can get to. She wants to report history in the making, but certainly not anonymously. This is not a criticism. Let's just recognize that her bravery and devotion to her job aren't entirely selfless.

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Like I said, it's pusillanimous to languish in mediocrity and the status quo for fear of something not working out or someone getting hurt.


You told me something, one time, and when I see you post statements like this, I can see your admiration for people like Logan. But, I also wonder if you apply this philosophy to yourself, and if so why you’re still doing what you do, in light of our previous chat.


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