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 Post subject: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:05 pm  
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I mean, it's the OC and it's kind of a bastion for the right, but they're generally more of the fiscal right than... crazy right.



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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:21 pm  
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I saw and heard of this. It really saddens me to know that there are good Muslims coming to America to escape the very atrocities that the bigots are so quick to point out, and they only find discrimination and hatred.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:31 pm  
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That doesn't necessarily mean the people there are actually from that area.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:20 pm  
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I'm just waiting for someone to come in here and explain how these people aren't racists/islamophobes/whatever.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:34 pm  
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You'll be waiting. those people are indefensible.

still, its not indicative of the whole.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
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I thought the Mormon Church was indefensible as well, but I'm always up for surprises.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:59 pm  
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most christians dont like mormons anyway. i haven't heard of any "religion" more shoe-horned into an established one than the mormon church.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:10 pm  
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Oh hey, a rabbi as well. Fuck you, orthodox Jews. You're the reason everyone else with a name ending in -man or -stein gets a bad name.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:20 pm  
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No, that really is what people from Orange County are like, if they're anything like they are a few counties over in Sacramento.

I remember visiting a yard sale and seeing books like, "Weapons of the SS", "The Nazi Question", and a novelty pickelhaube. For years, people drove around with gun racks on their cars until finally they were outlawed because it made the town look even more nuts.

Talking to a Sacramento resident who was forced from his homeland by "the national socialists", "You know, Ethan, when I lived in Berlin, the Nazis made everyone put a flag in front of their house. So now, with all these flags everywhere, you know, all this flag waving, it's very disturbing, you know."

It's worth pointing out that those protesters are breaking the law. Even if they aren't on the premises, they're engaging in hate speech in public and disrupting others' enjoyment on their private property. The "protest" should have been dispersed and those yelling should have been charged with hate speech, harassment, and disturbing the peace...and the reason they were not is that the cops are as bigoted as they are.

If it were up to me, that mosque would contract out a snowplow.

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Oh hey, a rabbi as well. Fuck you, orthodox Jews. You're the reason everyone else with a name ending in -man or -stein gets a bad name.


It's not usually Orthodox Jews so much as Conservative Jews that are the militant, self-righteous types. Outside their fanatical support for Israel, Conservative Jews adhere to all the tenets of Judaism that Reform Jews disregard as outdated superstitions (such as not eating pork or dating gentiles), except those that might actually be difficult or unpleasant (such as not eating non-kosher meat/dairy and observing the Day of Rest).

I did a Google search about David Elizere. Interesting. He claims to be Orthodox, but his actual sect is something called Chabad which is apparently a really extreme form of evangelical Judaism. Traditionally, Orthodox Jews are not messianic or evangelical and keep to themselves and practice their medieval way of life. These guys actually believe that the Messiah has already come, a belief which is considered heretical by almost all Jews and known to be empirically false by everyone who isn't insane.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:29 pm  
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Shit like this makes me really wonder how "normal" Americans could possibly vote in nutjobs like Tea Partiers regardless of said Americans' individual ideologies. I mean, sure, you can be a conservative. But you don't have to be fucking batshit insane.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:16 pm  
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Dagery wrote:
Shit like this makes me really wonder how "normal" Americans could possibly vote in nutjobs like Tea Partiers regardless of said Americans' individual ideologies. I mean, sure, you can be a conservative. But you don't have to be fucking batshit insane.


Because "normal" Americans don't see the Tea Party as "nutjobs," or as they were referred to in the first ten seconds of the video, "hate groups." Since there isn't really any official Tea Party, and everything under that label represents several (dozens of?) groups, almost anyone could start a group and put Tea Party in the name, it doesn't necessarily mean that their views are representative of the other Tea Party groups and/or their members.

Another problem with "normal" Americans is that most of them think that Muslim=Bad, but that's more the fault of the media and interests groups than the people themselves. After 9/11, videos of Muslims dancing in the street in celebration were shown, and spokespeople for the most vocal Muslim-interest group, CAIR dance around condemning acts of terrorism/violence in the name of Islam when asked during interviews. It leaves the "normal" American with exactly the impression extremist anti-Muslim types would want them to have, which is that violence is a part of Islam and that's why no Muslim will apologize for it. Is that dumb? Yeah, but if a person has never seen any apple other than Golden Delicious his whole life, and you ask him what color an apple is, they're not going to say red. The "normal" American works 40+ hour a week and has to work in time with the kids/family/friends, and they're not sitting around staring at the internet and news all day like certain people here.

Despite that, and these morons in Zaryi's video, I don't imagine most people would act like that. The behavior there was absolutely unnecessary, especially considering what the point of the event was. If anything, the reaction should have been positive. Was there something about the event we're not seeing that would have led those blithering idiots to act like that? I can't imagine that anything in that video was taken out of context (what was with the bitch calling those people at the event "terrorists?"), but given the "tea party=hate group" bullshit at the front, I'm not inclined to believe it was an unbiased portrayal, either. Not that it would excuse the behavior of the people in the clip, but I can't imagine anyone was that ginned up just because these people were Muslims.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:07 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
Another problem with "normal" Americans is that most of them think that Muslim=Bad, but that's more the fault of the media and interests groups than the people themselves. After 9/11, videos of Muslims dancing in the street in celebration were shown, and spokespeople for the most vocal Muslim-interest group, CAIR dance around condemning acts of terrorism/violence in the name of Islam when asked during interviews. It leaves the "normal" American with exactly the impression extremist anti-Muslim types would want them to have, which is that violence is a part of Islam and that's why no Muslim will apologize for it. Is that dumb? Yeah, but if a person has never seen any apple other than Golden Delicious his whole life, and you ask him what color an apple is, they're not going to say red. The "normal" American works 40+ hour a week and has to work in time with the kids/family/friends, and they're not sitting around staring at the internet and news all day like certain people here.


We're talking about California. These people aren't bigoted because they've never seen anyone who isn't white and Christian or Jewish.

They're bigoted because it gives them a sense of moral superiority and cultural definition they wouldn't have any other way. This is the truth. This is what is at work here. These are human garbage with no identity who turn to bigotry to give meaning to their hedonistic and vacuous lives.

A rational person would understand that Muslims are hetereogenous just as Christians themselves are...and, by your account, the Tea Party.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:14 pm  
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Remember this one time, where we were talking about how every group has it's retards?

So instead of that conversation repeated for the hundredth time, let's simply bash everybody at this protest for being pants on head.

I'll go first.

Ever notice alot of the time, when it's a woman (Deborah Pauly in this case) who's saying something batshit retarded, she always kinda has enough droop in her face that she looks like a bulldog?


"Ok we aren't such things and birds are pretty advanced. They fly and shit from anywhere they want. While we sit on our automatic toilets, they're shitting on people and my car while a cool breeze tickles their anus. That's the life."
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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:20 pm  
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we could but then mayo would bring up other shit to hate all over.


what institutions do you actually LIKE mayo?


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 Post subject: Re: Mindblowing
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:45 pm  
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red lobster.


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