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 Post subject: taking bets
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:12 pm  
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show of hands, who thinks america will get stuck running the libya libyration(see what i did) because none of the other countries involved want to take charge?

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The only problem: None of the countries in the international coalition can yet agree on to whom or how the United States should hand off responsibilities.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenvoy/20110321/ts_yblog_theenvoy/international-alliance-divided-over-libya-command


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:20 pm  
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No big deal, China will pay for it.


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:36 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:38 am  
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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
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Monotheist wrote:
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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:52 am  
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CUT TAXES. SUPPORT MILITARY SPENDING. CUT ENTITLEMENTS. MANUFACTURE BOMBS. NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS.


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:04 am  
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Except that the chuckleheads on the right offered serious cuts in defense and intelligence spending in exchange for serious cuts in entitlement spending (which is actually where the bulk of the federal budget is). Dems balked because 1) entitlements ensure their voting base (THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY!!!) and 2) 20% of defense/intelligence spending is a drop in the bucket compared to 20% of entitlement spending.

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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
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They have oil, so yep.


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:49 am  
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/af_libya

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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:57 am  
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Our military is stretched so thin, somethings gotta give...right?


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:11 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
20% of defense/intelligence spending is a drop in the bucket compared to 20% of entitlement spending.

Don't say things that get disproven by .5 seconds in google.
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Then again, there's not really an "entitlement" section on the graph and entitlement is something broad enough that it can include "every social program" or "every social program that doesn't somehow benefit me or my family". For all intents and purposes, I'm assuming "entitlement" programs are things like welfare, minority scholarships, etc (read: directly giving money to the poor/disadvantaged).

If your definition of entitlement is all social spending (which is probably something like 60-65% of the graph), it sort of makes political sense for democrats not to do it, considering they'd be giving up 3 dollars for every 1 dollar that republicans would.

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Dems balked because 1) entitlements ensure their voting base (THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY!!!)

Don't Republicans do the same thing with defense spending? (THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA CUT THE MILITARY AND THE TERRORISTS WILL WIN!!!)


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
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I also found this idea of cutting defense really ironic because I took a stop off at McDonald's while driving back from Cleveland to Cincinnati yesterday and they had Fox News on the TV as I was getting my Water with 75% more Tea Flavoring and my Diced Pressed Potato Wafer. It was that morning show (fox & friends?) and they were criticizing the Dems for wanting to cut defense spending when we were getting into Libya.


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:54 pm  
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I remember I used to drink McDonalds tea lot. I went to get some from Blimpies or something and it said "Fresh Brewed" and was in a tin like McDonalds tea but inside the tin were all the tubes connecting the syrup and such so I said fuck it.

Did McDonalds switch to a similar system?


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:08 pm  
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There is nobody in the world that can destroy the US, or even seriously harm the US. We don't need ridiculous defense.


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 Post subject: Re: taking bets
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Fantastique wrote:
There is nobody in the world that can destroy the US, or even seriously harm the US. We don't need ridiculous defense.


I'll agree with the first part, but disagree with the second part.


One well placed nuke could definitely seriously harm the US. Look at September 11th, you saw how that raped the economy, right?

That being said, I agree we spend way too much on defense and don't need to. We should stop being the watch dog of the world and get back to being isolationists concerned only with what is going on here.

The world doesn't want our help anyway - and we get blamed for everything when we try to help. So fuck it.


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