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Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:00 am

so now syria, in addition to egypt libya yemen and ....I lost count of the others, has had protestors fired upon by authorities and now everyone is taking to the streets and going crazy.

what the fuck is going on in that area?

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:24 pm

People got tired of having presidents that serve for life and the internet let them know what the standard of living was like in other countries.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:41 pm

Yuratuhl wrote:

People got tired of having presidents that serve for life and the internet let them know what the standard of living was like in other countries.

This is why embargoes are self defeating as a means of political action.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:50 pm

In the sense that Cuba got along fine despite not trading with us? That's mostly true, but they were trading with everyone else. I'd say Iran would be happier if they had more people to sell to and buy shit from.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:05 pm

Yuratuhl wrote:

In the sense that Cuba got along fine despite not trading with us? That's mostly true, but they were trading with everyone else. I'd say Iran would be happier if they had more people to sell to and buy shit from.

A better example would be North Korea, or the Soviet bloc. Go watch "Goodbye Lenin".

One of the long-term effects of the embargo is that Iran is one of the most heavily industrialized and self-reliant nations in the Middle East.

Weena · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:59 pm

People are tired of living in shit because of assholes.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:44 pm

Aestu wrote:

A better example would be North Korea, or the Soviet bloc. Go watch "Goodbye Lenin".

One of the long-term effects of the embargo is that Iran is one of the most heavily industrialized and self-reliant nations in the Middle East.

North Korea produces less food than its population eats. I don't think perpetual starvation is a sign that embargoes are harmless.

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:31 am

That, and if you think Cuba is doing even close to OK, you've watched too many Michael Moore movies.

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Jubber

Usdk · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:46 am

You can't say that America has to be involved in the world at large or it will crumble and other smaller shittier countries are doing just fine without us in the same breath.

Aestu · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:33 am

Yuratuhl wrote:

North Korea produces less food than its population eats. I don't think perpetual starvation is a sign that embargoes are harmless.

My point is that the embargo hasn't changed the government.

Dvergar · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:35 am

Usdk wrote:

You can't say that America has to be involved in the world at large or it will crumble and other smaller shittier countries are doing just fine without us in the same breath.

America has to be involved in the world to maintain our level of decadent consumption. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just the way it is.

Fantastique · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:26 pm

Well, the motivations are similar across in each of the countries but there are some differences as well.

Bahrain, for example, is sick of having it's Shiite majority ruled by the Sunni monarchy. They give all the high paying jobs and political power to Sunnis and ignore most of the Shiites. That's why Saudi Arabia had to step in, they wanted to maintain the Sunni power (they are a Sunni majority.

Usdk · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:28 pm

maybe their women are tired of getting arrested for getting raped.

or maybe they're just tired of getting raped.

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:34 pm

Usdk wrote:

or maybe they're just tired of getting raped by America.

USA USA USA

Usdk · **Posted:** Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:33 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_syria_usa

Quote:

Bordering Israel, Lebanon and Iraq and an ally to Iran, Syria has long had a vexed relationship with the United States

Whyever are we not world policing there too?

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