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 Post subject: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:42 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
My buddy's wife ended up cheating on him and sticking him with the house... only to come back later, forcing him to leave the house and move in with his brother. In a good faith effort, he would write her a check for 75% the mortgage and give it to her each month (since she was living there and they had to make payments still) but that twat just cashed the check and didn't pay the mortgage for over nine months. In addition to destroying both of their credit, she drained the joint bank account (before she left) and ran up all the credit cards, sticking him with the bill since everything was in his name.

They're now divorced and he's with some chick we used to go to high school with, so alls well that ends well... but C'est la vie, indeed.


You know - I was having this discussion with my buddy the other day. We both determined that if/when we get married, we will be making our respective spouses sign pre-nuptial agreements. I have many reasons for this - one of the biggest is that you never know what can happen in a marriage...after 10 years feelings could change, bad things could happen, and so on.

My mother left my father when I was 3, took the kids, and a damn huge chunk of his salary with her after the divorce. My buddy's father lost a house he had built with his own hands to his ex-wife.

The legal system in this country still heavily favors women when it comes to divorce proceedings (IE: My mother was given full custody of us, even though she didnt have a job and my father worked, and we basically lived in poverty because of it...but that's neither here nor there).

Not to only bash women...men can be just as untrustworthy. In this day and age, with divorce rates as high as they are...I don't see how I wouldn't want a pre-nup.



TL,DR: Married bros, single bros, whatever - what are your view points on pre-nups? Why does the legal system hate men so much when it comes to divorce? Are women really as money grubbing and bitchy as they seem to be....because I feel like all I hear are horror stories.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:00 pm  
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My wife and I have a pre-nup. It was something we both agreed on. I think it makes sense, especially when one person might bring more to the table financially than the other. Before we got married I owned my own house and had 3 cars. Sure wasn't gonna lose them in a divorce if it ever happens.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:04 pm  
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Krunkz wrote:
My wife and I have a pre-nup. It was something we both agreed on. I think it makes sense, especially when one person might bring more to the table financially than the other. Before we got married I owned my own house and had 3 cars. Sure wasn't gonna lose them in a divorce if it ever happens.


Definitely smart - I know some people get really defensive. I guess it depends on the relationship...but for example my brother was basically like "yeah I couldn't even bring up the idea of a pre-nup" like it would be a touchy subject and would hurt feelings.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:05 pm  
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The problem that Eturnal is describing isn't that this woman is unfaithful, its that she's stupid and insane.

The man who married her was a moron. Straight up. Feelings change, but marrying someone that stupid and irrational, he got what was coming to him.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:16 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
The man who married her was a moron. Straight up. Feelings change, but marrying someone that stupid and irrational, he got what was coming to him.

There is no way to know that someone is going to change their personality and views on life at some point in the future. Like you said, she was stupid and insane but no one ever knew her to be like that until after her mother died.

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Edit: Just kidding. Not shutting up. Prenups are great for people like Krunkz but they're not always viable. My wife and I entered our relationship with each person brining near nothing to the table. Now we have a lot of nice stuff so if the court decided to split our assets 50/50 then you won't find any tears. She'll get what she wants/needs and I'll get mine. Between the two of us, we always said that the person that leaves the relationship is the one to leave the house behind... I'm confident that we'll both uphold that verbal agreement. The only hardship I'd foresee with our divorce is determining custody of our son - we'd both fight for being legal guardian but I'm thinking we'd find a fair way to split our time with the little guy.
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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:22 pm  
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I heavily favor anything that involves a contract. While that won't stop the signers from breaking the terms and doing terrible things should they feel inclined, a contract means they won't get away with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:53 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
There is no way to know that someone is going to change their personality and views on life at some point in the future.


Or get struck by lightning.
About the same odds.

Passions change easily. People do not. I think the best question to ask of a marriage is, "if we stopped loving each other, would our marriage endure?"

That, to me, is why most marriages today fail. People expect romantic gratification, the kind associated with dating and romance etc, then things fall apart when they realize how grey married life is. But if you focus on who you ARE, and not how you FEEL about each other, the marriage will endure and become more than love.

My extended family has no history of divorce. At all.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:03 pm  
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absolutely, positively yes to pre-nups. There is simply 0 downside to them. If your marriage endures, great! If not, you're still okay. Though I do agree with Eturnal's agreement with his wife about the one who leaves the relationship leaves the house. I will be using that one.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:03 pm  
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Aestu, the marriage counselor.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:06 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
Aestu, the marriage counselor.


Well, at the very least he'd be able to identify with people living in sexless marriages.


Fantastique wrote:
Though I do agree with Eturnal's agreement with his wife about the one who leaves the relationship leaves the house. I will be using that one.


This.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:14 pm  
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Rofl well played.

In NC, i think if you own a house, and then are married, you now own half a house.

I hope its not true, and can't be bothered to research it, but man, I'll be having a prenup if I end up getting married with nothing but one testicle.

With the divorce rates as high as they are, it would be foolish to do otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:25 pm  
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Correlation versus causation.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:37 pm  
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versus reality.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:32 pm  
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I probably won't ever get married.

Because I don't ever want to go to prison for murder.


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 Post subject: Re: Prenuptial Agreements and Why You Can't Trust Anyone
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:36 pm  
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Why is it the reality?

Why is the divorce rate 50%?


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