Dvergar wrote:
I know a few people who have in the past gone on welfare. They almost all involved instances where the mother left with the kids due to abuse or just the father leaving. I also know a number of people who used WIC. My mother was on WIC when she was pregnant. My father worked hard and took any overtime he could but when her pregnancy forced her to stop working they just couldn't stretch it.
I've tried to find a reason to be against this drug testing. It's based on stereotypes and frankly I don't think the problem is as big as everyone wants to believe it is. However, I have no problem kicking the dead-beats out on their ass, as long as it's not screwing someone who legitimately needs help.
Could you elaborate on your experiences with people on welfare? What were they and in what capacity?
Dvergar wrote:
I'd rather give 5 shitheads welfare than deny it to some young mother who was left with the kids when her husband split or she left because of abuse.
Is it really so black and white?
What if the mother has kids, but is spending the dough on drugs and vanity crap? What if those shitheads are doing things more socially destructive than the probable benefit of giving cash to the average welfare recipient?
You say the mother was "left with the kids" or "left because of abuse". What kind of a person finds themself in that sort of situation? How does it happen? If they're given a check, is that going to correct the issues that led them there in the first place?
You seem to say that women in difficult situations = good and men in difficult situations = bad. Doesn't it happen that often enough the woman is the destructive factor? Or that women use their children as leverage? So why automatically assume that women in those sorts of situations are necessarily deserving at all?
