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Well I guess someone from NSync was a bad example, but I think he definitely has a look I would associate with being gay. It's not something I can describe in words, but human brains are incredibly good at pattern matching. I have a friend who looks quite similar and is also gay, which I why I used Lance as an example.

Laelia Komi Anomalocaris

Fair enough, but really, I would have to question the test itself.

If you were showing men's faces...they should all be relatively similar. It wouldn't be fair to show entire bodies, or upper-bodies...because if you see a guy wearing some faggy low-cut tight shirt, and you see he has no chest hair...you've already made conclusions that weren't based solely on his face. He's either really metro, or gay.

Also, if you only choose faces where one gay guy is all carefully groomed and maybe waxes his eyebrows (as some gays do), and compare that to some gruffy guy who looks like a mountain man, you are still stacking the deck because...clearly the person who looks like he waxes and wears foundation is probably gay.

No, the only way to truly do the test would be to compare a bunch of guys who all had a similar "look" to them...no one with special makeup, or special trims...heck all of their beards or lackthereof should be similar.

I think if this was a case, and it was just random faces of dudes and you had no information to judge on...other than their faces...It doesnt matter if women are ovulating or not...they wouldn't be able to truly tell "oh this one is gay, this one is not."

The test itself was flawed.

That's what they did. "The photos were gray-scale images standardized for size, and none of the targets had adornments (e.g., jewelry, facial hair). Moreover, the gay and straight men did not differ in emotional expression or attractiveness" (they tested the latter in a separate study). I believe the photos are also cropped to show just the face (no hair or clothes). Also, guys who look like mountain men can be gay too (guy in the pink shirt looks pretty scruffy).

Laelia Komi Anomalocaris

Well shave my chest and call me Lance Bass.....




Yeah, IDK man, I still don't buy it. Maybe I'm just skeptical.

That chick on the bus (and other ladies, I'm sure) detected that Azelma is gay long before Azelma detected he's gay.

There's nothing wrong with being skeptical based on a single study like this. However, if you think a study might have methodological or statistical problems, it's a good idea to look at the paper to figure out what their methodology and statistics are. I would like to see this study replicated by a different group with different sets of faces to test whether the particular methods used here are biased, but given the information in the paper the result that women are better than chance at identifying gay people seems pretty robust and the idea that ovulating makes that ability stronger seems fairly reasonable.

Laelia Komi Anomalocaris

Sort of relevant.

There are no patterns to be found.

There's a word for this sort of thing. It's called physiognomy. It's one of those inborn human superstitions - like the belief that "magic words" are causally effective - that veils itself in many things and dies very hard.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

The study suggests there are patterns to be found. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Laelia Komi Anomalocaris

His inborn human superstition.

Obviously.

Burden of proof is upon party making assertion. That burden has not yet been met, and it is not for anyone to prove a negative.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Again, what level of statistical significance are you looking for?

Laelia Komi Anomalocaris

I don't think he understands statistics well enough to answer that. Not that it matters, it's Aestu. Being ignorant won't stop him from claiming he knows best.

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There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.

It's kind of funny how you are still angry at me because of my comments about Isamoo.

Perhaps all the more so that experience has proven them completely correct.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Everyone thinks the same way about you and most of us don't know/care about what you said about some druid.

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