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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:35 pm  
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Conservatives are (usually) easily swayed by people who agree with their opinions. Liberals usually have a more open mind, so it really doesn't matter what Maddow said on her show - no educated liberal will take her extreme stance seriously.



Both sides are full of idiots. If people were really thinking for themselves and clearly understood the way things worked they would have overthrown the government (or at least effected actual change) long ago.

The only real argument one could make about conservatives being swayed is to look at the difference between conservatives now and conservatives 20-30 years ago and see how they've changed. It is interesting to note that the "let the government burn instead of raising taxes on the richest" conservatism of today is pretty out-of-line when compared to their Reagan messiah, who raised taxes 11 times including the biggest increase in peacetime.

I would also argue that the spirit of compromise has gone completely out the window in the conservative party. The main reason liberals are disappointed with Obama is his compromises with the right. Unfortunately, instead of the right working with him they just keep stepping back every time he comes to the middle. It seems like he's the only politician who realizes the country is split between the parties, getting elected doesn't mean you just fuck over the other half.


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:53 pm  
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Fantastique wrote:
Conservatives are (usually) easily swayed by people who agree with their opinions. Liberals usually have a more open mind, so it really doesn't matter what Maddow said on her show - no educated liberal will take her extreme stance seriously.


According to liberal website Politicususa.com:

The first month plus at MSNBC A.K. (After Keith) has been a mixed bag. On the upside Rachel Maddow’s ratings have grown by 34% compared to last year at this time. The bad news is that until the Wisconsin protests became hot story, Ed Schultz had been unable to hold the same viewership numbers that Lawrence O’Donnell had at 10 PM.

Rachel Maddow has not been hurt by the departure of Olbermann as the monthly ratings press release from MSNBC stated, “The Rachel Maddow Show marked the 13th consecutive monthly win over CNN among A25-54 (301,000 vs. 236,000) and total viewers (1.102 million vs. 809,000). This is the strongest A25-54 delivery for TRMS since November 2010 and the best total viewer delivery since March 2009. Compared to January 2011, “The Rachel Maddow Show” grew +11% in total viewers and 19% in A25-54.”


Clearly no one is taking Maddow's extreme stance seriously. If Mediaite is to be believed, she's even topped Fox in that time slot a few times since Olberman left.

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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:58 pm  
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Yeah I'm not sure the idea of: "Better Ratings = We're Right" makes any sense whatsoever.

Unless you're trying to say "Better Ratings = We Are More Open Minded" or "Better Ratings = People Take Us Seriously"

Really, I have no idea what ratings have to do with anything. The Jersey Shore has great ratings....that in and of itself should tell you everything you need to know about what ratings mean.



Also, if you assert that Fox is a beacon of journalism because it has great ratings....and you also agree that Fox is the only conservative news network in a sea of liberal-leaning networks....

DUH they get great ratings...they are the only ones! Liberal hippie fags have to choose between MSNBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC for their news!


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:59 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
EDIT: Someone want to explain to me why the fucking url tagging has become fuckerized recently?


works fine for me.


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:09 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure the idea of: "Better Ratings = We're Right" makes any sense whatsoever.

Unless you're trying to say "Better Ratings = We Are More Open Minded"

Really, I have no idea what ratings have to do with anything. The Jersey Shore has great ratings....that in and of itself should tell you everything you need to know about what ratings mean.


Fanta says no 'educated' liberal (and Christ knows liberals think everyone on their side is Stephen Hawking and everyone on the other side is Larry the Cable Guy) would take Maddow seriously, yet apparently over a quarter million people take her seriously enough to watch her at night. So apparently there's at least 1/4 million liberals who don't realize they've incorrectly affiliated themselves politically.

And Tehra, I can make it work, but I used to be able to put bold/italics/underlines in between url brackets, and that doesn't work anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:21 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
Azelma wrote:
Yeah I'm not sure the idea of: "Better Ratings = We're Right" makes any sense whatsoever.

Unless you're trying to say "Better Ratings = We Are More Open Minded"

Really, I have no idea what ratings have to do with anything. The Jersey Shore has great ratings....that in and of itself should tell you everything you need to know about what ratings mean.


Fanta says no 'educated' liberal (and Christ knows liberals think everyone on their side is Stephen Hawking and everyone on the other side is Larry the Cable Guy) would take Maddow seriously, yet apparently over a quarter million people take her seriously enough to watch her at night. So apparently there's at least 1/4 million liberals who don't realize they've incorrectly affiliated themselves politically.

And Tehra, I can make it work, but I used to be able to put bold/italics/underlines in between url brackets, and that doesn't work anymore.

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Ah I see your point. Well, there are uneducated liberals just as there are uneducated conservatives...and there are morons who take morons quite seriously.

I find it just as appalling that people take Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'reillly seriously...yet it happens.


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:26 pm  
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Interestingly enough, all of the pundits are ok by me when serious shit goes down, its when nothing is going on and they're forced to fill the air with bullshit from their own stupid heads that i can't stand any of them.


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:27 pm  
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Glenn Beck is a nut, and Bill O'Reilly just says what his audience wants to hear (I can still remember the time he said something to the effect of "Nothing is more important than freedom of speech, but we have to find a way to hold people accountable for what they say"). However...I think Rush Limbaugh gets a bad rap, because the only thing most people who don't like him have ever heard that he's actually said are out of context sound-bites. You really have to listen to him for like a month and a half to understand what he's doing.

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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:32 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
You really have to listen to him for like a month and a half to understand what he's doing.


I do understand. He's trolling professionally.


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:42 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
Jubbergun wrote:
You really have to listen to him for like a month and a half to understand what he's doing.


I do understand. He's trolling professionally.


Oh, so you get it. That's what I like about it...he even does this thing now he calls the "media tweak," where he says something he knows will be taken out of context on purpose to get groups like Media Matters to have a seizure. It really is professional trolling, and that's what I like about it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:45 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:48 pm  
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If you say so, hater, but it's funny to listen to the "I'm going to say X and Y is going to happen," then watching Y happen.

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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:18 pm  
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So that whole rant he went on blaspheming about how Jesus is all about the rich people being able to keep all their money, that's totally ok with you because he was really just doing 'a thing'?


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:20 pm  
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Only people on the right are offensive.

This is a widely believed fact reported by people on the left.


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 Post subject: Re: The Right Attitude
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:26 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
Only people on the right are offensive.

This is a widely believed fact reported by people on the left.


I think we need a new rule in our political debates. If your only response when someone brings up a fault with your side is to say "the other side does it too" you should just eat a ban.


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