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I think we've discussed this before...but seeing this shit on my feed riled me up. People debating which is the better "party school" OSU (Ohio State) or OU (Ohio University).

1.) Why do publications even release party school rankings?
2.) Why is drinking, athletics, and partying in general so intertwined with our American college experience? It's KILLING higher education and causing us to lag behind further than ever before.
3.) Why don't people brag about what programs their school offers? Why don't they brag about idk...anything remotely academic?
4.) Are Europeans and Canadians this retarded with partying in higher ed? Obviously the Asian nations are just studying all the time. Seriously...you wanna know why America is falling behind in science and math? Because a majority of the population spends thousands of dollars in college to drink themselves into a stupor have unprotected sex with as many random morons as possible.

It's a WASTE of money when these mongoloids go to college and all they do is drink beer and brag about how they "party hard"

Think about our current debt situation and the DIRE situation of student loans and defaults in this country. Mark my words...education is the next bubble that will burst.

It's pathetic, and as an OSU alum, I'm ashamed.

Also...fucking #hashtagjokes.

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Whether it's rich parents or financial aid or student loans (which are paid for by parents or just never paid) more dumbs are going to school and well, they like to party. Although ranking party schools is just retarded and should be shunned.

@Meowth So confusing with the school acronyms.

OSU - Ohio State University
OSU - Oklahoma State University
OU - Ohio University
OU - Oklahoma University

But yes, facebook is also very wrong.

I don't get why it would bother you if one school is more of a party school than another. In many cases, a lot of these kids are just getting away from home for the first time and they wanna have fun. Also, many of them are going to be of legal drinking age, so a party school would be better than a dry campus. Not like it matters, either way. On any campus (dry or not) there are going to be parties and as long as the partying doesn't affect the students ability to learn then it shouldn't matter to anyone here. If they fail to do well (due to the parties) then they'll get put on academic probation or even receive some greater punishment.

All the things you're complaining about happen outside of college if you think about it. Adults will go to parties and clubs for drinks, dancing and hooking. They drink themselves into a coma and fuck wildly, too. If that lifestyle starts impacting their work performance then there will be consequences -- but if it doesn't then who are we to care? Truth is most of the people in college are adults (and many are of the legal drinking age), so who are we to dictate to them what they do in their free time?

PS: Facebook is fine.

You're painting a rosy picture of the party atmosphere in college.

In reality, thousands upon thousands of students are drinking many nights ("Wasted Wednesday" "Thirsty Thursday" etc.) and then attending class either severely hungover, or simply not attending at all.

The problem comes with information retention (and a lack thereof) with people who are excessively partying. You can party hard enough to not fail out of college but simply scrape by with Cs. To me, that means you aren't getting the information and won't be very competitive when it comes to getting a job.

I'm not saying people shouldn't drink or go out and party...of course I still do that from time to time. However, the whole "life is one big party" college atmosphere I think is very antithetical to what higher education should be about and I am convinced it is doing far more harm than good.


Speaking of Ohio University specifically, they are academically.....weak....in many areas. I know many of the people I went to high school with who were slackers, who failed tests and obtained forgettable standardized test scores ended up going to OU.

So here you have a school that is not the greatest in the world academically, yet it gets ranked as the #1 Party School in the nation and is a point of pride for all students...it literally has students who attend simply so they can party at the annual "Athens Halloween" (referenced a few times in the news feed convo).

I just think it's a sorry situation. I'm not trying to be the "no fun police" but I'm questioning what the perception of college is (Think of all the stupid college party movies that exist....). I think it's a problem when vocal section of the college population is literally there to spend their parents (or the governments, or the banks) money and drink and fuck....graduate with debt...then try to figure out how to get a job with a mediocre degree and very little learned.

It's sad.

OU has one of the top 10 Journalism schools and iirc they're really, really good at teaching as well... or maybe that's Kent State.

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While getting good grades is a good thing, it's not the end-all determining factor when it comes to getting a job and it doesn't mean the recipient of the grades is any more or less smart. Some students learn best in different environments (smaller classes compared to auditoriums), with different teaching methods (lecture versus lab), and each student has their strengths and weaknesses (note taking and test taking) - all of which isn't going to be impacted by drinking UNLESS the student is going to class drunk or hung over. At that point, it's not a problem with higher education, accreditation boards, faculty or the institutions - it's a problem with the student not managing their time and life responsibly. (And if a stoner gets into college for mediocre performance during High School, that's more meritorious that someone getting into college because a racial or gender quota needs fulfillment.)

As for college getting a party atmosphere - why not? You have tens of thousands of young adults living in close quarters, many being on their own for the first time, having almost unrestricted access to sex, drinking and drugs, with almost zero responsibility other than going to class to take tests and passing college. Of course you're going to have that type of atmosphere and I don't think there is anything that can change that. I don't see how that's a problem unless, again, the student let's it be a problem... which isn't anyone's problem but their own.

I guess I don't see a partier any worse or better off than someone who elects to get their Undergrad in History or Music.

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True though, they do have a good journalism school. Ohio State has a pretty solid Masters program for teaching...my sister goes to Kent State...they are only really known for Fashion and Architecture and getting shot at by the government. In any case, OU isn't TERRIBLE....but the fact that the only thing students there seem to hang their hat on is their status as a "party school"

You can't convince me that the party atmosphere in college is conducive to learning. While there are people who can party ans still be successful, I think there is a significant portion of slackers coasting through who only care about getting "schwasted" and glorify how "hard they party." They will be the people drawing smiley faces on my bill at Chili's when all is said and done. I just worry because these people are taking loans out that they simply won't be able to pay back.

fucking love me some Chili's

I don't think anyone here is saying that partying is conducive to learning, but it certainly isn't as detrimental to it as you're making it out to be.

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A party atmosphere can be conducive if you don't get involved in the parties... which, again, is up to the student and not where the college they attend ranks on some Top 10 Party School list. You're putting way to much weight on this and not enough on the individual, since slackers and partiers exist at almost all colleges and universities (with the exception of places like West Point where you have no time to party).

Also, your characterization of their futures is a little unfair. Any person who attends school and studies their ass off might be the one serving you food at Chili's (due to any number of factors, like location, job market, undergrad choice). Also, people who fail out or don't attend college can do just fine. College educations don't automatically equate to high pay in all circumstances - trade and manufacturing jobs can do just as well and those people are perfectly capable of paying on loans.

MORE CAPABLE THAN THOSE HIGHLY EDUCATED FUCKS RUNNING OUR GOVERNMENT MIRITE!?

The education system is in shambles from years of not dealing with lots of factors well.

If idiots want to go to college and spend all that money just to party, they might as well just rent a shit apartment near campus and run around being an idiot for much much cheaper.

College is overvalued in some cases. For example, if you want to get promoted past a certain rank in the local PD(here at least) you have to have a masters to become say a captain.

but I'm told it doesn't have to be a master's in criminal justice or even business management.

Tell me how a masters in phys ed will help you run a police department from top to bottom.

I don't see how those are comparable, considering one can be both.

People coming to class hungover wasn't a problem when I was an undergrad, and I went to a big state school. Then again, I did History (and French) rather than, say, Communications.

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