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Usd, you represent a very popular problem in America. People don't think they're racist, don't actively dislike people based on their skin (or so they say), but none-the-less make judgments based on color and nothing else. Nothing too big, just low-key enough for you to brush it off, but it's there all the same, and it's why America won't get past it's race problems.

We (the majority) don't care what you (minorities) have to say anyway.

Black guy with a banged up fender? Need to sort out those welfare payments.

You do this quite a lot, this little racism. You think of yourself as a fair, decent person and you could be, but your mindset on minorities is not of equals. A minority has to prove to you they are worth something, while a white person has to prove they're not.



And given your past on these boards, calling you a redneck is largely apt. You can drop the victimization act, redneck is a category of action not of color.

Dvergar /
Quisling

I've spent most of my life in the minority. They started sending smarter kids to shittier schools to bring the averages up so schools didn't lose their funding. IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING but the schools i attended were between 65 and 80% black, and I had a 30 minute bus ride one way every day.

You think I'm racist because my thoughts from one thread dribbled into another. Or because I don't give a shit what members of one race think about members of my race.

The real deal is that I don't care about any race(aside from my asian fetish which I think is forgivable, amirite spure?) and I'm smart enough to realize that its not the RACE you're born into, but the culture you're raised in. I think that the worst racism is where the people who are so enlightened they think they have to send out all manner of aid and help to people based on something completely arbitrary because it looks to ME that you think they can't do it on their own.

I wish everyone belonged to Samuel L Jackson's character from die hard with a vengeance's school of thought. "Don't accept help from the white man."

You call me racist, but i think you're just trying to make victims of people that are not being victimized. My disdain isn't towards any race in particular, but the subject of race in general. We should be so far past race in this day and age it's sickening.

And redneck doesn't have anything to do with color? How many asian rednecks do you know?

If you've spent "most of your life in the minority" then what's your context for saying that "we the majority don't care what you think"?

Yes your thoughts dribbled. That's the point. Americans create these elaborate halls of mirrors to disguise their actual attitudes behind PC and false relativism. With the BS and internal contradictions wiped away the real picture becomes starkly apparent.

I previously said that a major factor in white racism is "white majority + deep-seated (and largely untruthful) philosophy of self-sufficiency creates ridiculous racial hubris". You say blacks should engage in self-help. But that hasn't worked for white people either, has it? There's still the poor white trash. The fact that some white people have made it to the top, where they've become a socially distinct group (dumbass suburbanites and smug yuppies), doesn't change the fact that really there's very little churn at the lower rungs of American society - black or white.

So yes the philosophy of self-sufficiency is "largely untruthful" and yes it does conflate with white majority in the attitudes of the status quo. And as you see here this faulty attitude manifests itself in "BS and internal contradictions".

You quote "don't accept help from the white man". But what does that really mean?

Is the government, necessarily, white? Depends, really. If the justice system is any indication, the life of a black man is worth a lot less than the life of a white woman. On the other hand, there's definitely also a lot of positive bias in favor of "minorities". Hence why I say American society is fractitious - or balkanized, if you prefer. So if the government created social programs to help ALL Americans that are struggling - regardless of race - would that be "help from the white man"? Or what would be?

Again it's that American "untruthful philosophy of self-sufficiency". The myth that every successful man is Robinson Crusoe. In reality, American government and society have done much to create the conditions necessary for individual success - everyone who has been successful. But all of a sudden when we talk about making a more equal society for people who have the same economic problems but are also of a different color it suddenly becomes "help from the white man".

I talked about American social balkanization, and rednecks are what a lot of elements of American society are, some permutation of race and social conditions and attitudes. No different than ghetto trash or reservation junkies or dumb suburban people. I don't know any Asian rednecks, but I definitely see other people who have an entire worldview defined by their background, of which race is a part.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Banks control all the money and government.

Money creates racism.

Divide and conquer, said the banks and government.

you really are nothing but a parrot.

I wasn't in the majority in school, but i still recognize that I'm in the majority now(though just barely: http://greensboro.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm ). Do you think you're so smart that you just assume everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about? These aren't complex concepts.

I've never been accused of being PC, and I never try to relate to anyone in regards to race. I simply don't care.

as for the rest of your diarrhea, it would have taken much less time for you to type out: "I haven't seen the movie, and don't know what you're talking about."

But then someone would have to admit that THEY WERE WRONG ON THE INTERNET.

I don't think our society is racist today so much as it divided by a combination of race and class. There are a great number of black/latino/asian/whatever people that I would relate to more readily than a certain number of my fellow Caucasians. Affluent whites don't mix with "rednecks," to use the epithet our resident Font of Irony chose. Affluent blacks don't hang out with folks of their own race from the ghetto. If I'm walking down the street at 2 am and I see a black guy coming the other way, I'm not worried when he's wearing a suit and tie, or some other clothing that marks him as a respectable middle-to-upper-class person. The dregs of our society are easy to spot, and it's generally not the color of their skin that makes them apparent.

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Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

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It's just easier to say racist than classist.

And no one is sure whether or not its ok to hate classists.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

The world is divided by money.

Friend of mine in England sent this one to me:

THE RIOTERS PRAYER
Our father, who art in prison,
Only mum knows his name,
thy Riots come,
Read it in the Sun,
In Birmingham, as it is in London,
Give us this day our Welfare bread & forgive us our looting,
As we're happy to loot those who defend stuff against us,
Lead us not into employment but deliver us free housing,
For thine is the Spliff, the Blackberry & the Lager,
Forever and ever
...Innit!

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

A Modest Proposal...

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.