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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:20 pm  
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aestu doesn't know shit about cops. this isn't news.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:56 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
and really, i only disagree with the military part becuse there will always. be a necessity of the footsolider


My reasons for keeping the Navy (and piling the Air Force under its wing) is that such a thing is more than enough for policing borders and carrying out precision strikes. Infantry, and ground action in general, is necessary to hold invaded territory. An ideal America will never invade again. Ships and planes are all it takes to effectively defend a country that's surrounded by two large oceans from any (real) threats.

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I think this would all be fixed by mass sterilization. Keep everyone who is smart, and prevent anyone who is an idiot from reproducing.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:32 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
Usdk wrote:
and really, i only disagree with the military part becuse there will always. be a necessity of the footsolider


My reasons for keeping the Navy (and piling the Air Force under its wing) is that such a thing is more than enough for policing borders and carrying out precision strikes. Infantry, and ground action in general, is necessary to hold invaded territory. An ideal America will never invade again. Ships and planes are all it takes to effectively defend a country that's surrounded by two large oceans from any (real) threats.


That's not to mention that the Marine Corp is a part of the Navy, so if you need ground pounders...there they are.

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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:08 am  
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Jubbergun wrote:
That's not to mention that the Marine Corp is a part of the Navy, so if you need ground pounders...there they are.


I'd get rid of the Marines, though. The point is to do away with "ground pounders" entirely because they're the ones that die in engagements, and they're the ones who aren't needed when the military is relegated to defense only.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:07 am  
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There is a need for foot soldiers. We don't need as many as we have though. The ones we do need should rarely ever leave our shores, and act more as patrollers than soldiers. Really the only soldiers on foreign soil should be the special ops variety, if we're using the War on Terrorism (which of course we are) as our basis of military policy.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:34 am  
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Weena wrote:
There is a need for foot soldiers. We don't need as many as we have though. The ones we do need should rarely ever leave our shores, and act more as patrollers than soldiers. Really the only soldiers on foreign soil should be the special ops variety, if we're using the War on Terrorism (which of course we are) as our basis of military policy.


We have more police under the Aestu system, so patrolling soldiers would be unnecessary.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:51 am  
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My views on policy are driven by two assumptions you apparently do not share:

1. Human potential is largely elastic. Trite as it may sound, I believe very few people are truly "born stupid", and I believe that social conditions are the primary determinant of human potential. Therefore, I believe that your conviction that American public high schools provide good fundamental skills to anyone "who isn't stupid" vacillates, and moreover, I don't believe they even do so at the very low level of potential that their student bodies already have. I believe that the general stupidity of university students and the dismally low production of substantial bachelors in America today (compared to China, India and the EU) are testament to that.

Therefore, my goal is to increase human potential and do more with less. This sounds lofty, but such was the original goal of traditional classical and 3R education, and it largely succeeded.

2. Conscription is the best way to prevent wars from occurring in the first place. The Israelis may never have made peace, but at least they've avoided large-scale wars ever since the Lebanon fiasco; Vietnam was effective at keeping the peace until a new generation - and the end of conscription - started the Iraq War; WWI was a strong enough deterrent for the Europeans that they were very reluctant to go to war 20 years later, and the hard lesson has kept them at peace ever since.

Tuhl, what's your premise for opposing conscription? What if the conscripts were sent to the Navy?

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I believe that people with long criminal histories, history of drug abuse, or more than three children should be sterilized.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:14 am  
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This country is full of pussies anymore. Conscription would either fail because of those pussies being pussies, or it would makes this country stronger by teaching our youth to not be pussies. In either way, I'm for it.

(We can fight wars with only special ops and airplanes?! GTFO.)
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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:36 am  
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To fix black America we just need to eliminate "Nigga Moments"



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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:50 am  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
This country is full of pussies anymore. Conscription would either fail because of those pussies being pussies, or it would makes this country stronger by teaching our youth to not be pussies. In either way, I'm for it.


Just curious, have you done any tours of duty in Iraq or Afghanistan?


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:10 am  
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Nope. Does it matter?
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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:14 am  
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I'm just wondering why you're calling everyone a pussy when you yourself don't have the balls to enlist and serve your country.


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 Post subject: Re: How Aestu Would Fix Black America
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:19 am  
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I enlisted in the VA ARNG between 11th and 12th grade. I shipped to Ft. Leonardwood the day after I graduated where I learned how to blow lots of stuff up with explosives and kill a man from 300 yards away. I came back home Aug 29, 2001. When I got back I was given a chance to deploy to Egypt for a mission, but then 9/11 happened, which I was a first responder to the Armory and other places in and around DC (edited). With 9/11 and coming from an engineering unit, we spent a lot of our time doing work around the state (security stuff), which side-tracked my orders to go to Egypt.

I had gotten out of the Guard before my unit had their first deployment because I wanted to finish school.
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