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 Post subject: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:12 am  
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Anyone here like comics/graphic novels?

I've been getting more into comics as of late. I've read a few graphic novels I really enjoyed (Watchmen, V for Vendetta)

Currently I'm reading The Walking Dead series. Just finished volume 1, and it's pretty badass.

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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:14 am  
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Not me, but mah BFF is huge into comic books and whenever we're working on a house together he get's really nerdy and tells me the entire backstory of nearly every character from every comic. I tend to just watch the anime/movie releases whenever they come out.
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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:16 am  
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I quit buying comics (some of them have gotten fucking terrible) and I still have shelves and boxes of them around the house.

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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:02 am  
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Agreed with Jubber.

I really love classic comics, and some more recent ones as well. I had a hardcover book featuring classic comics, I found them very inspiring and educational.

One of my favorites was the origins of Dr. Strange. Reminds me of my father. That's exactly what his life was like. Except...Dr Farber was never motivated by money. He wanted something else.

That story also represents my deepest hopes and most powerful fears.

Modern comics are terrible, stereotyped and overdone.

Graphic novels are worse! Writing bad dialogue in an overaffected style doesn't make it more interesting! Exclamation marks and excessive use of bold/italic is a sign of uninspired writing! That was one of the first things my parents taught me!

Graphic novels are also way too contemporary and stereotyped. The SCII graphic novel for example - there are still chopstick-using Asians after humans have been living in the Koprulu sector for 300 years? lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:06 am  
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walking dead is good for about the first three volumes. after that it starts getting weird.


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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:09 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Graphic novels are worse! Writing bad dialogue in an overaffected style doesn't make it more interesting! Exclamation marks and excessive use of bold/italic is a sign of uninspired writing! That was one of the first things my parents taught me!


This made me lol. That is one part of graphic novels I don't particularly enjoy. Just last night I was thinking to myself, "Why do they do that?"

I don't think the dialogue is all bad though. And for me, it's the visuals/story that make it really interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:13 am  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
I tend to just watch the anime/movie releases whenever they come out.


This. Also I read japanese manga which basically like a comic book/graphic novel but I do find the quality of the writing to be a lot better (usually).
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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:14 pm  
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I've been keeping up with the walking dead and my friends discuss them from time to time but otherwise no.

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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:29 pm  
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If you like V and Watchmen, pick up Neil Gamain's Sandman. Fucking amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:02 pm  
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Zaryi wrote:
If you like V and Watchmen, pick up Neil Gamain's Sandman. Fucking amazing.


OMFG - you're the second person to recommend this to me. My cousin (big comic book buff) has already done so...definitely picking it up now.


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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:41 pm  
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Sandman kind of falls apart after the first long story arc, though. I think I have the graphic novel collection of those somewhere.

Speaking of which, some of those 'graphic novels' you've picked up with the bad writing are actually just omnibus collections of storyline/print runs, which is why they're like that. Avoid Warren Ellis (I think that's the guy), his shit always starts out amazing and you get pumped and then the last bits feel like he just cashed the paychecks and said, "Fuck you guys." Kind of like Bendis did at the end of 'Wanted,' where the main character is shown fucking the reader in the ass, only Ellis doesn't come right out and say it like Bendis does. 'Planetary,' for example, starts out as this great deconstruction of late 20th century sci-fi/fantasy pop-culture and the ending is a piece of shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:24 pm  
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The first graphic novel (though picture book is more accurate) I ever read.

Deadpool is about 95% of the reason I read any comic. I've read a couple other than that, but eh.


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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:33 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Graphic novels are also way too contemporary and stereotyped. The SCII graphic novel for example - there are still chopstick-using Asians after humans have been living in the Koprulu sector for 300 years? lol.


While there were always Asians in StarCraft (the leader of the Kel-Morian Combine according to the manual in the first game is named Mah Sakai) I always imagined them to act pretty much the way all the other Terrans did, on the basis that the Earth was pretty culturally unified as of the launching of the colony ships. Then again, I never read any of the StarCraft shit they put out, I just played the games/read the manual.

On topic, I mostly read French stuff. The comic/graphic novel culture there is a bit different, in that it's far more widespread. Everyone reads "bandes dessinées" and every bookstore carries at least a few of them.

Some of my favorites are Astérix (a lot of these are translated into English, and they do a good job on most of the jokes), Lanfeust de Troy, Valérian et Laureline, and Les Technopères.

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 Post subject: Re: Comics/Graphic Novels
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:40 am  
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Some of the French stuff I've seen is respectable, but there may be a certain degree of bias in that statement since no one is going to bother showing you a work you have to translate that is complete crap.

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