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 Post subject: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:41 pm  
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Journalists reporting on Libya's civil war have stumbled upon 21-year-old UCLA math student Chris Jeon, who has joined the Libyan rebels because "It is the end of my summer vacation, so I thought it would be cool to join the rebels."

Jeon bought an $800 one-way plane ticket from L.A. to Cairo two weeks ago, then snuck across the boarder into Libya. He of course has no actual affinity for the rebels: "At spring break I told my friends a 'sick' vacation would be to come here and fight with the rebels,"




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"How do you fire this thing?" he asked on Wednesday as a bearded rebel handed him an AK-47. Locating the trigger of the assault rifle and switching off the safety, Mr Jeon fired it in the air in two short bursts.
"I want to fight in Sirte!" he proclaimed, using hand gestures and pointing west towards Sirte. Whether the rebels understood him was far from clear. "It's hard to communicate. I don't really speak any Arabic," he said.


Fucking idiot. I don't hope he gets killed, but I wouldn't object to a maiming. Way to take a cause that people are dying for and turn it into a vacation and an excuse to shoot a gun. This is what's wrong with the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:12 pm  
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the only cool rebellion ended a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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What's wrong with the world is that there isn't more outlets for these kinds of heroes without a cause.

This guy is a level 1 in Goldshire irl.

I've often been tempted to do exactly what this guy is doing - seek adventure. I wanted to go to the Japan disaster or the Gulf of Mexico oil spill for the same reason.

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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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Personally, I believe there can't be heroes without a cause. Also, someone who signs up for such a cause without any understanding of what it really means is basically making a mockery of the cause. He's a bandwagon fan.

I hate bandwagon fans.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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bandwagon like trying to run the israeli blockade?


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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Believe me when I tell you that looking for adventure is a bad idea. Hide from it and hope it doesn't find you.

Your knees (and many other body parts) will thank you for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:19 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
Personally, I believe there can't be heroes without a cause.


One of the things you learn in Classical Studies is that not only can there be heroes without a cause, but heroism transcends causes. There really is a certain type of "hero personality", characterized by young, restless energy and a desire to test one's character.

Let me throw it at you this way. If there could not be heroes without causes, then heroism would have to be fundamentally linked to absolute cosmic good. But is there such a thing? Is there any place or time that is truly black and white? Or can people be great and larger-than-life in the pursuit of less than pure goals?

Indeed, history is full of such people. There are even many cases of heroes for opposing causes. Take, for example, Che Guevara versus JFK, or Scipio versus Hannibal, or Alexander the Great versus Diogenes the Cynic.

On a less than epic scale, you meet everyday heroes - people who stand out through extraordinary kindness or diligence in self-betterment. People who maintain clarity of purpose and clarity of identity through the smallness and challenge of day to day life. That, too, is heroism: the act of overcoming the small as well as the great.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:29 pm  
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Bandwagon fans cheer for the winning team halfway into the season. They don't go to a country mid-rebellion and join a side.

I don't think there's a "bandwagon cause-follower" because that makes no sense. Hopping on a bandwagon implies there's nothing at stake.

I do think it's stupid, though. But then, the situation (and the quotes) are so ridiculous that it seems like an Onion article.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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this has nothing to do with a bandwagon.

it just sounds like some idiot wanted to haev a cool story to tell one day and is going to end up getting his dick shot off by one side or the other.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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Usdk wrote:
this has nothing to do with a bandwagon.


Two posts in this thread disagree. But yes, it does sound like an idiot who wants a cool story. Which is weird, because he's a senior math undergrad, and everyone knows they fear adventure like Azelma fears girls.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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Now that you mention that, I may have to retract my earlier comments, travel to Chicago, and take Azelma out on an adventure where he has to talk to girls. "Please excuse my friend, there's something wrong with him...btw, my name's Scott, and yeeeeeer purdy."

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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:21 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
it just sounds like some idiot wanted to haev a cool story to tell one day and is going to end up getting his dick shot off by one side or the other.


So in other words, he's man enough to do the things you like to talk about.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:16 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Usdk wrote:
it just sounds like some idiot wanted to haev a cool story to tell one day and is going to end up getting his dick shot off by one side or the other.


So in other words, he's man enough to do the things you like to talk about.


I don't consider it manly to go get killed in a conflict where 1) you have no business being, and 2) you have no interest in being there.

If he truly believed in the rebels cause he would have been there before they'd already booted gadafi out of his stronghold and took over most of the country.

EDIT: and considering he didn't even know how to fire a weapon before he took off, he's even more stupid on top of that. I personally hope he gets killed. A life and death struggle for a nation should NOT be watercooler bullshit to make you feel popular at work. I just see it as him being disrespectful of their struggle.


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 Post subject: Re: Stupid UCLA Punk Joins Libyan Rebels
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Yuratuhl wrote:
Bandwagon fans cheer for the winning team halfway into the season. They don't go to a country mid-rebellion and join a side.

I don't think there's a "bandwagon cause-follower" because that makes no sense. Hopping on a bandwagon implies there's nothing at stake.

I do think it's stupid, though. But then, the situation (and the quotes) are so ridiculous that it seems like an Onion article.


I guess I interpret a bandwagoner as someone who just wants to enjoy the glory but doesn't truly care about the team.


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