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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:41 pm  
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So creationists that don't believe in the theory of evolution are just as narrow-minded as evolutionists that think it's impossible that a God could have created life. A creationist that supports evolution or an agnostic evolutionist is probably in the right mindset at this juncture in time.


Except creationism is a fantasyland myth while evolution is an accepted scientific fact. "Narrow-minded" isn't pejorative when the stuff you refuse to consider is so improvable (and Occam's razor-defying) that only an idiot would believe in it.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:46 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:42 pm  
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Except that Ron Paul wants to appeal the 14th amendment.

I've not seen anything that substantiates this.

If it is true, it's something I don't agree with Paul on. But if he does wish to repeal the amendment, well I think that says something very good about his method. That is to say, he intends to repeal something, as opposed to simply disregarding it when it doesn't ducktail with his decisions.

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He has also proposed legislation that would neuter the federal judicial in cases of state laws.

Unless the Due Process Clause is being stepped on, which basically means a law does not comport with the Constitution, I don't see much of any reason for federal judges to be ruling on state laws.

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But this guy was bringing his religious beliefs to work with him. He probably denied performing abortions on people who would die w/o them. I wouldn't put it past him, anyway. And if elected president, his beliefs would curb stem cell research and put a ban on Gardasil for young girls, both of which have seen substantial gains and benefits over the last few years.

The idea that he'd knowingly let a mother die to give birth is hogwash.

Paul stated he thinks alternative medicine should be licensed, on the idea that people should be able to treat themselves in any way they see fit. Under that idea, I don't see him limiting any medicine on a federal level.

Maybe what you meant was that he's against immunizations being mandated, which I believe you would be correct on. Sounds like Paul, but I don't know for sure.

Abortion and stem cell research are things he's against. But he isn't going to ban them. Like most things, he'd simply stop the federal governments involvement. Federal funding for stem cell research is the only thing about stem cells that would change. This is an effort to make the funding of such things as voluntary as possible. Federal funding of abortion or stem cell is a big middle finger to any tax payer who is pro life or against such things. Abortion would be wholly left to the states to decide, and what better way to do it?

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:31 pm  
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But this guy was bringing his religious beliefs to work with him. He probably denied performing abortions on people who would die w/o them. I wouldn't put it past him, anyway. And if elected president, his beliefs would curb stem cell research and put a ban on Gardasil for young girls, both of which have seen substantial gains and benefits over the last few years.

The idea that he'd knowingly let a mother die to give birth is hogwash.

Paul stated he thinks alternative medicine should be licensed, on the idea that people should be able to treat themselves in any way they see fit. Under that idea, I don't see him limiting any medicine on a federal level.

Maybe what you meant was that he's against immunizations being mandated, which I believe you would be correct on. Sounds like Paul, but I don't know for sure.

Abortion and stem cell research are things he's against. But he isn't going to ban them. Like most things, he'd simply stop the federal governments involvement. Federal funding for stem cell research is the only thing about stem cells that would change. This is an effort to make the funding of such things as voluntary as possible. Federal funding of abortion or stem cell is a big middle finger to any tax payer who is pro life or against such things. Abortion would be wholly left to the states to decide, and what better way to do it


Okay, it was a really big stretch I'll admit that. Comment rescinded.

While I like the guy as a person, and while I do not consider him a nutcase, I would still not want him in office because of the disagreement we share on scientific issues (however, this goes for almost any GOP politician). I still think Gardasil vaccinations should be mandated, since the PREVENT CERVICAL CANCER and the only way to get stupid people to do smart things is to mandate them (and even then they'll still find a way around it).

As for stem cell research, I'm not going to open that can of worms (well, I might just crack it a bit). Suffice it to say that in order to gain any sort of meaningful results in this century, lots of expensive research needs to be carried out. The best way to do that is with federal funding and I believe anyone who is against the funding of humanity's war on disease is just as inhuman as any terrorist.

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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I don't think you should mandate something like that, life saving though it may be.

I'd say just cut the costs of health/life insurance by a nice amount for people who have a certain checklist of immunizations.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:06 pm  
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Educate the parents and let them make the decision.

I don't know much about the drug but I understand it's been relatively new. Is there any human study that tests the long-term effects (positive or not) of the vaccine?

PS: We should also mandate people wear hats, pants and long-sleeve shirts to help fight skin cancer... and no more of whatever "bad health causing flavor of the week" because it is bad for your health... like grilled steak or cellphones. (Yea, I know those aren't really linked to cancer but I think it makes my point.)
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:08 pm  
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What USD said is precisely what would happen in free market insurance setting.

A free market in insurance would give people incentive (for most - extra incentive) to immunize themselves and their children, through lower rates for people who are immunized. The same goes for smoking, obesity, etc.

I guarantee charity would pick up the slack of the exceptions - provided more capital was left in people's hands and government refrained from supplanting it.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:11 pm  
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Anyone who has been lulled into fear of a Ron Paul presidency by raging liberals really have nothing to fear from him as president, why?

because he believes in limiting the power of the president, he believes congress writes the laws, not the president. To do half of the things liberal props are saying Ron wouldn't even be able to do without the full approval of Congress. It's what he wouldn't do, that makes him so powerful. Patriot Acts... undeclared wars.. but lets get some of the nonsense out of the way.

Common lies include:

He would get rid of social security- yet Ron wrote a bill stating that the GOV can't spend money from social security for other government projects, thus PROTECTING Social Security. The liberty issue is, he would like anyone who wishes to, to be able to OPT out of it- but that also means they miss out on it as well. "I would never pull the rug out of from anyone relying on Social Security... but something has to be done to fix it or eventually the government will not have a choice when it is bankrupt." He also states that a lot of the programs being cut and under threat of cut could easily be funded if we simply cut down on the Empire spending overseas, overextending our military arm beyond it's need just like the Roman Empire once did.

He would get rid of anyone relying on state healthcare- as before stated, he is someone who believes in the legislative process and will NOT pull the rug out from anyone. His argument is that when he began working in healthcare before so much socialized medicine, there were charity hospitals, communities, churches, that never turned anyone away from healthcare- the students becoming doctors and nurses worked for very low wage or even for free as part of the training similar to nowadays, but ever since the government stepped in and lowered the bar of care the power has been given to the buddy system of government and insurance. Which is why Ron Paul wrote a bill to simply let any american whom desires their deserved right to just OPT out of upcoming Obamacare. Dr. Ron Paul gave free healthcare to his needy patients, but go ahead and believe what you hear about how ruthless he is.

He doesn't believe in evolution argument? Without getting into the apes became humans issue and what parts of evolution people believe, how does this have anything to do with someone who can balance a budget, accurately predict market crisis to the T, and preach declaring wars and bringing home troops for the sake of the lawfulness and integrity have anything to do with this. Maybe you should vote for people based on their favorite salad dressing. He's a pro-limited government presidential candidate, not your Bush or 'Bama who wants to control your personal choices or make Executive Orders.

So those folks soo afraid of states power, I bet they wished their state had more power to say no to sending anyone to Iraq without a declaration of war... potential Federal Gay Marriage bans (big issue for Fubugoers?keke), Hemp growing bans, imagine all the outright stupid Federal laws and potential ones under presidents that you do not like that have come up and are outright unnecessary.

As for the 14th Amendment Issue, Ron would like to amend the portion "birthright citizenship". He says you can end the illegal immigration nonsense if you simply remove the incentive for people to break our laws for the sake of free welfare.

Lastly, he would NOT SIGN the Patriot Act, or ANYTHING like it. Wasn't this a huge promise for liberals by Pres. Obama, other than ending the undeclared wars, not starting more?

I have to go have dinner now, and don't let talking heads on tv scare you from what liberty you deserve.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:15 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Too bad we don't live in the 19th century.

Oh wait. It's fucking awesome that we don't live in the 19th century. I like that there's federal wage regulations, working hour regulations, emissions regulations, right to unionize, the Salk Vaccine, uniform immigration codes, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:23 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
Too bad we don't live in the 19th century.

Oh wait. It's fucking awesome that we don't live in the 19th century. I like that there's federal wage regulations, working hour regulations, emissions regulations, right to unionize, the Salk Vaccine, uniform immigration codes, etc.


Actually Ron's talking 20th century, the one that wasn't in mountains of debt until the latter, and he provided free health care without the need of the gov telling him to at the sake of indebting his grand-grand-grand kids to the chinese government.

So take that 19th century garbage back to the bank that's holding your constantly inflated currency at the sake of the poor and middle class who can't save faster than your government can inflate and spend.

Learning from the past and reading history doesn't mean you're going back to ancient times, it means you're learning from your mistakes derp


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What is the point of minimum wage?

By minimum wage's logic, why don't we make minimum wage $15/hr? $30/hr? Then everybody employed would be well off wouldn't they? Why can't I sell my time for whatever price I see fit?

The same goes for overtime pay. Why can't I work overtime for whatever rate I want? Why do I have to work overtime at a rate of 150% of normal pay? What if I'd rather work 10 hours overtime for 100% than 0 hours for 150%?

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What's wrong with having a researcher look for investment or donations to fund their research?

Would research stop or slow without government subsidy? Will people not help people on their own?

Is it acceptable to research medicine for profit? If not...

Is it acceptable to grow food, build houses or supply water for profit?

Salk provided society with a great thing. Should we not provide him for his great thing if he so wished?

Why is it acceptable for me or Salk to give away our work for free, but it isn't acceptable for me to give my work for anything between $0.01/hr and minimum wage?

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Is it acceptable for an employer, who is in the minority, to be forced to turn his business into a closed shop if the majority wills it?

If so, then is it acceptable for any majority to force the hand of any minority?
Is the reverse ever acceptable?


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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I don't see anything inherently stupid about questioning the premise(s) upon which the ideas Weena is addressing are built.

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