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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:41 am  
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because you support the war on drugs


I don't support the war on drugs, I would see all drugs legalized with extremely harsh penalties for breaking laws while under the influence of drugs. But the war on drugs wasn't what we were talking about, it was just something unrelated you are trying to distract the conversation with.

The picture I posted represents the state-sponsored system of oppression and discrimination based on race, a system which under Ron Paul and other Libertarians would be perfectly legal.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:08 am  
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Mns wrote:
Why do you ask such stupid questions?

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Are the hyphens supposed to make you look smarter?

I had a teacher, in highschool, who was by far the best teacher I ever had. There was something he always said.

Question everything, especially authority.

He encouraged us to question even what he was teaching - which was physics in this particular case.

When someone would ask what the rest of the class thought was a stupid question, he would bring up the old adage: There is no such thing as a stupid question.

The hyphens were simply to break up a large set. To categorize questions with questions on similar topics.

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Serious Question: Have you ever had a job, Weena?

Yes. I've had a number of them.

I have even worked for less than minimum wage at an actual job (as opposed to a charity).

I've worked for charity too.

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What's wrong with having a researcher look for investment or donations to fund their research?


Why fund the curing of a disease when you can keep people on your pills until they die. Private investment leads to 5 different erectile pills and no cure for the diseases of the poor. If you fundamentalists are so anti-government that you can't see the benefit of taxpayer-funded medical research I don't think there's any point in having a discussion at all.

Maybe those five erectile pills are a step to the cure? It seems logical to me. In the pursuit for a cure for cancer, we have come up with many treatments and no cure.

In a practical argument:

A free market strives to provide people with what they want. People want cures for diseases. That's the plain version.

To be more precise, people with their own interests (remember, people are interested in curing disease), who are allowed to pursue those interests more fully (by taking less from them) will come to the conclusion (in this case, the conclusion is a cure) with better efficiency. In a worse case scenario, they come to the conclusion with equal efficiency to a public sector centered approach.

In a philosophical argument:

Is it right to force a lesbian to fund research for the cure of erectile dysfunction?

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Sorry Non-white, non-chrisitans, it's totally ok for a state to legally discriminate against you in any way they choose. But don't worry, you can work four a couple dollars an hour for the new super-conglomerate. Without regulations it didn't take long for competition to go out the window (gotta love that free market). But don't worry, the news station is reporting that the super-conglomerate is full of super swell people that really care about you and everything they're dumping into the air and water is totally safe, those epa regulations were just made by meanies (what you won't be told is that the news station is a subsidiary of super-conglomerate). The news even has scientific reports from top researchers (also working for super-conglomerate)! Oh and those few dollars an hour are company script, so you can only use them in super-conglomerate stores. Isn't all this liberty just grand?!?!

This is just hogwash.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:33 am  
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Love how free-market worshipers overlook the safety and environmental concerns that the free market routinely neglects in the holy quest for profits. Not to mention the excessive amount of administrative costs the private market brings, which in the end makes the private market product often more expensive, not less. The public sector works sensibly, and so spend more to do things right. The private sector just dumps the problems on the public and counts it's profits.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:38 am  
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truth will defeat fear mongering, ignorance and/or lies, at least eventually it will.



Not if the conservatives have their way it won't.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Fantastique wrote:
Not if the conservatives have their way it won't.

Do you honestly believe the current administration has been completely truthful and forthcoming with all their plans and initiatives, considering they haven't really accomplished much of anything they said they would do? Lies and deceit aren't born from one side of the aisle...

At least Ron Paul has been most consistent in his opinions and views over the last millenia than any other modern politician (that I know of).
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:46 am  
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Dvergar wrote:
Love how free-market worshipers overlook the safety and environmental concerns that the free market routinely neglects in the holy quest for profits. Not to mention the excessive amount of administrative costs the private market brings, which in the end makes the private market product often more expensive, not less. The public sector works sensibly, and so spend more to do things right. The private sector just dumps the problems on the public and counts it's profits.


Viagara was originally a pill that was being worked on to help with blood pressure, i believe. Then peoples dicks started getting hard and they went that direction instead.

There needs to be a good balance between the private market and the government. Government runs on taxes, so if everyone works for the government....where do governments get any income? If everyone works for the private sector, who will protect the interests of the common man?

No one here thinks this should be a 100% free market. There are so many obvious problems with that, we dont need to get into it yet again. Repeating for the hundredth time, lumping us in with everything you hate about fox news does us all a disservice, and is unjustly complimentary to fox news.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:55 am  
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Environmental concerns can be addressed through property rights. I have the right to not have my land damaged or polluted by your actions. I also have the right to enjoy my property, and there's a legitimate argument that pollution from some one else's property can prevent me from enjoying mine. We already use this with a different kind of pollution; noise.

The government is wholly capable of making awful decisions. Most awful ideas are a product of politicians investing for political return (as opposed to economic), which is almost always why they invest. Granted, the private sector makes wholly awful decisions too. But the private sector doesn't try to polish a turd into gold.

Solyndra is a good example. How helpful are unsold, uninstalled solar panels to the environment? Because most panels were not sold. Yet how much were we forced to spend on Solyndra? Seems highly impractical to me. I'd argue that money would have been more wisely spent by the private sector.

Maybe making viable energy cleaner, until technology makes solar energy on par with other energies.

Private market prices having a tendency to be higher than government product prices is not entirely true. The government can charge less (or nothing) because they can have part of the tab picked up by tax dollars.


But what this thread is really about is RON PAUL and how awesome he is.

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:40 am  
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There is a such thing as a stupid question. Sorry to burst your bubble.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:42 am  
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mazeltov wrote:
There is a such thing as a stupid question. Sorry to burst your bubble.


You mean like when your mom found out she was pregnant with you and asked, "Is it mine?" Or when you were born and everyone asked, "Are you sure that's a penis?"

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:48 am  
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Coming from a deadbeat dad your insults mean nothing. At least you are trying now though.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:51 am  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
Jubber can't play on the weekends because he's with his boy. Not sure that constitutes 'bead beat dad'... sorry bro.


2 whole days get outta here.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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I think someone's just mad that there's walking proof I've made it with a woman, and the best he can produce is a crusty sock.

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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oh man jubber's just like 65% of the rest of the nation, what an asshole.


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Jubbergun wrote:
mazeltov wrote:
There is a such thing as a stupid question. Sorry to burst your bubble.


You mean like when your mom found out she was pregnant with you and asked, "Is it mine?" Or when you were born and everyone asked, "Are you sure that's a penis?"

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