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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:42 pm  
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While we are at state's rights can the south just leave? Hopefully Northern VA (which does not include the parts Jubber and Eturnal live in, although that's funny how it works, both live in hickville VA yet they try to pretend that they are part of the NoVA bubble) can become it's own state.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:46 pm  
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eat a dick maz, the south is awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Awesomely supported by the states that actually do stuff.

I always found it funny how the people that were so fervently against handouts were the biggest recipients of them.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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For BBQ yes I haven't had other southern cooking (grits, collard greens w/e) so I can't comment on those. I do know that after 4 years in the hell hole that is Texas I don't plan on ever going back. I can make an exception to come to NC to visit you though USD you are still qewl.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:55 pm  
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I'd be down. Dreys had fun while he was here.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:13 pm  
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Rathmoon wrote:
Don't </3 people for disagreeing with you especially on politics.

Buy them some pizza, and drink together imho.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Fantastique wrote:
Doing again soon.

Jeluz? You should be.

We'd do it again soon if you fags would actually say what weekends are good for you guys. -__-
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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:14 pm  
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Weena, I'm deleting the group. For a Ron Paul supporter, you're awfully keen on tyranny against those who disagree with you.

I don't think so.

Tyrannical would be deleting/changing posts and subverting those who make them.

I'll accept an argument that it was unprofessional, and an abuse of power. But far too harmless to be tyrannical.

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2) Argue away/ignore any answers.


To be fair, I think only one person has technically answered one of the questions.

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without any sort of regulation


I'm not arguing no government. I'm arguing limited government.

The federal government has no legitimate business in regulating things they weren't granted the power to do so. Amazingly enough though, the federal government has legitimate ways of granting itself power (not that they always should), and yet it decides to say hell to that.

The states however, are granted the power to regulate things within their borders. Doesn't mean all the regulations they pass are good, or the one's they don't pass are bad.

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You know what? I fully support states' rights. I can't wait for the rich states to stop subsidizing the poor ones. I'm entirely in favor of the northeast and the northwest (and maybe Illinois) staying prosperous, while the rest of the country tumbles down into third-world status. I can't wait for Alaska to fail utterly because without massive government handouts, it can't exist. I'm a supporter of Arizona enacting federal-law-defying immigration statutes, so that all the cheap labor moves to less restrictive states, which will then profit at Arizona's expense. I really want Wisconsin to completely repeal union rights, so that its workers leave en masse to the more civilized states and the manufacturers are forced to relocate.

It'll be awesome, because I live in New York.


I think you're making it more doom and gloom sounding than it would be. I also think you're being sarcastic. If you are being sarcastic, you're making more sense than you know.

Like Alaska, maybe we should let it fail. I doubt it would actually fail, but it would certainly downsize. I see it as good thing on a macro level that we aren't giving people incentive to live some place where they can't support themselves. Better those people be capable of fully supporting themselves (which means they are either producing benefit for us, or are zero sum) down south than being living up north and being a burden on the south.

You live in New York, I live in Minnesota. Let's pretend they had real policy difference for a second. For the sake of argument, New York is super liberal, and Minnesota is super conservative.

I want, and got, pure unrestricted capitalism with zero social welfare, and you have highly regulated socialism with boatloads of social welfare. My state's pro life, traditional marriage, etc etc etc, yours is the opposite.

We both are getting what we want, and if we dislike our states enough, we can choose to stop being part of them all together - on a whim, because as Americans we can move to any American state we want with ease. This brings states at least somewhat into a sense of free market discipline.

Isn't that a great thing? You live in a place you want, I live in the place I want? That's the prevailing idea with state's rights. There is no one size fits all. It's the most live and let live system you could hope for. You have your Iron Maiden, I have my Lady Gaga. Governments can best fit the needs and desires of this country's vast and diverse population.

Please note I'm not pro-life, traditional marriage, against all regulation or a fan of Lady Gaga.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:49 pm  
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I'd be happy to let NoVA be its own thing before it drags the rest of the into the same sort of hellish existence that you find in Fairfax County, but I work in Herndon. I see it enough every day to know there's good reasons to NOT live there.

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:06 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
I'd be happy to let NoVA be its own thing before it drags the rest of the into the same sort of hellish existence that you find in Fairfax County, but I work in Herndon. I see it enough every day to know there's good reasons to NOT live there.

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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Another excellent article from the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/opini ... ml?_r=3&hp


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Mns wrote:
I'm not sure "fuck the lazy" is any sort of coherent political philosophy or strategy.


My apologies, Mayo. I seem to have missed the part where I typed "fuck the lazy" in the 6 or so paragraphs I wrote about my own personal experiences.

Maybe you could point it out to me?

Hey, I got one for you!

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We should just be complacent with a mediocre system, and we should never strive to improve as a country.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:20 am  
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Really we just need to have a benevolent dictator.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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Battletard wrote:
Mns wrote:
We should just be complacent with a mediocre system, and we should never strive to improve as a country.


I could be wrong, but isn't that what the Republicans are striving for?

- Repeal Obama's Affordable Care Act, the only healthcare overhaul in recent history
- Stop the funding of research, including stem cell research, even though it shows much promise
- Continue to deny the rights of gays in the military for absolutely no good reason whatsoever
- Continue disproportionately taxing the middle class in favor of the rich (read: the people that put them into office to do their bidding)
- Quit trying to make friends with other countries and continue to try and police the world

That's all I could think of off the top of my head in 30 seconds. Like I said, I could be wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE, LEAVE HIM ALONE FUBU MODZ
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well you may have missed it, but dont ask dont tell got repealed like yesterday.


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