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oh i know, but the video is hilarious

I forgot about this.

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it still makes me giggle

Flu shot is a scam.

1. Which strain they put in the vaccine yearly is a shot, in the dark, at the broad side of a barn
2. It can make you sick
3. Mortality, one's own or others, to the flu, is not substantially higher than chances of mortality to bad vaccines or bad reaction
4. It's only sold as a political placebo and to make producers rich

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Been vaccinated twice, no ill effects. Don't know if I'll bother this year, but I have nothing negative to say about it.

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The woman claimed she got the vaccine and within a day or two got flu-like symptoms. Since viruses take anywhere from 7-10 days to reach levels high enough to cause symptoms, this means she coincidentally gotten sick at least a week before. Also, her dystonia is generally brought on by illness - meaning she got it from the illness she got the week before, not the vaccine. It is a freak occurrence.

I plan to get mine simply because I'm in clinical rotations and I'm moving to the pediatric and obstetrics ward next week. I don't feel like possibly infecting a neonate or a child who is immunocompromised from chemotherapy

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The shot only protects you from one strain and there are many potential strains each year, never mind the possibility of random mutation.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Wrong

That's still a broad barn. By tripling the vaccine the risks are also tripled. Last part makes no sense.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You are still wrong and that's all that matters. h8rs gonna h8

Which risk is tripled? The 1 in 1 million of contracting Guillain-Berre?

The 1-2 days of mild/moderate soreness etc. that was listed before?

Some unspecified risk that you heard from a friend of your mother's cousin?

The last part does make sense. If a virus' mutation has nothing to do with how the immune system attacks/recognizes it then there is no reason a vaccine would not help against variant strains.

Serious question how much research have you actually done into this? Have you experimented or read extensive amounts of scientific literature on vaccines? Where are these ideas coming from? You already didn't know the number of strains that this vaccine DEFINATELY protects against. Why should your other conclusions be considered?

Mazel, on page one you were "undecided" and then after your extensive research today, have picked a side.

Anyway. I don't get it because I decided to get it one year and regretted it. I've not had the flu since. It's everyone's own personal choice. Don't give the reason that you're protecting others from the virus too, since you probably shouldn't kiss your grandparents after receiving it nasally.

Where did I pick a side? I've merely posted facts about the vaccine in response to remarks like herp derp it only works against 1 strand. I even said on a previous page that I understand the reasoning "I don't want to get it because there may be a shortage and there may be others that need it" because it seems to have been a problem in the past even in years where there was no predicted shortage and no outbreak like the swine flu year.

I haven't even gotten a flu shot in probably 5 years. This was mostly because I didn't care/am lazy. But when people post that they won't get something for reasons that are factually incorrect I like to correct them.

My apologies, I read earlier today your post of:



As looking more like choosing to go on the offense for stupid reasons. Came home and read your latest and figured you were on a bender. Long day, carry on.

Or flu itself. Or incidental infection due to impurities or other potential faults in the vaccine.

In a perfect world that never happens. In this world, it does.



The immune system's capacity to recognize the flu virus is the only variable in play. Flu is common and everyone gets it at some point in their lives.



Ofc I do. One. Or however many strains they cocktail into it. In which case the only thing being consolidated is the delivery system.

I've taken several courses on microbiology and pathology. My father is an infectious disease specialist who teaches at a prominent medical school and is the director for a state managed care system. My opinions have been shaped largely by what he and several MD professors have expressed, that the selection for the annual flu strain is "basically a guess". Which, it seems, as of late they've decided to mitigate by throwing THREE darts at the wall.

Go on, you're going to pick that to bits and tell me that short of being the Surgeon General no opinion is worthwhile.

What about you, Mazel? Do you sit around reading the MMWR?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Flu vaccine shouldn't increase the chance of getting the flu. Where did you hear this? Many if the vaccines are made with viruses that have been killed so if fear of contracting the flu is the reasoning take one of those.

Rare incidental infections or impurities are just that rare. How common are they/what are they?

It was my understanding the the most severe reactions to the flu vaccine were to the anti biotics that are used in multi-dose vials to prevent contamination. These reactions are also generally allergic. If this is what you are talking about then a vaccine that contains different ingredients could be used instead. If someone is allergic to an ingredient in each of the vaccines I can see that as a valid reason to not get one.




I don't understand the point of this statement or its relation to what I said.




Didn't know you still spoke with your father. Last I remember a phone call from home usually ended very quickly in nerdscreams. I'm surprised you have taken micro and patho classes. Your ideas on scientific concepts in other threads have been jubber-like. But if you have had some reasonable discussion on this topic than good for you I'm surprised I thought you stuck to history.