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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:03 am  
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/opinion/b ... ?hpt=hp_c2

"The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement."

This made me think:

*In a society like the one we live in that is openly critical of religion and religious institutions, why would anyone want to be 'religious?'
*Marriage doesn't interest men because it no longer has any benefit for them. The vast majority of divorces are initiated by women. There is no security in marriage for men, who lose not only an emotional connection but property and income in a divorce.
*Given that the primary motivator for men to be industrious was to attract a desirable spouse, the state of modern marriage explains why so many men are useless slackers: why attract a spouse who is most likely going to leave at some point?

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:55 am  
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Affirmative action for men.

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Sure, I'll man up. I'll go get a job, married and have 2.1 kids. Theres just one problem. There is a roughly 50% chance I'll wind up in divorce court - dumped because Mrs. Right just isn't feeling it anymore. The I'll be paying child support for children I can only see once every two weeks (assuming of course she hasn't made up some story about me molesting them to interfere with my visitation rights). And then I'll probably also wind up paying alimony on top of that - call it ex- wife support.

On second thought beer and video games with my buddies seems like a much safer, and financially less risky, option. less
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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:33 am  
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I think it has more to do with how society has been overly balanced in women's favor - at the urging of women.

Divorce is only a part of that, and what divorce is really about is not money but severely misguided life expectations.

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I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?"


And most men could just as easily ask, "Where are the decent single women?"

The question itself really does cut to the heart of the issue: unreasonable expectations on the part of women, fed by unreasonable mores and women enjoying level of individual success totally out of whack with their individual abilities.

More than ever, getting involved with women is a fool's errand. One is expected to honor all their traditional prerogatives while maintaining a pretense of equality.

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Profiling the Campus Date Rapist: Inside the Research.

...He has framed a body of research around the concept of undetected rapists. Some of his conclusions will cause us to carefully re-examine our willingness to accept at face value what “HE SAID.”...

...Should the alleged victim have a right to appeal?...

The rubric helps to dispel the myths that sexual misconduct complaints are fraught with “gray areas,” or that a complaint amounts to nothing more than a “He Said – She Said.”


It's also worth noting that those stock materials total about ten thousand dollars, meaning that short of being wealthy it is impossible to get the information to compete with institutions on an even footing.

With the cards so skewed in women's favor - her word is as good as a conviction and even if her claims are baseless her word alone can put a man on double jeopardy - only a FOOL would get involved with most young women.

Because of the unreasonable advantages they enjoy throughout their lives, most women today are spoiled beyond reason. So not only do men have social, legal and economic reasons to avoid engaging women, they also have strong personal incentives to do so as well: the attitudes of women that must be endured in institutional settings where unreasonable laws and social mores can be enforced, are only palatable to the most foolish and superficial men in purely private relationships.

The article claims that it is the habits of men which drive the greater success of women. Bullshit. The educational success of women is 100% (not 25%, not 50%, not 75%, it's 100%) due to preferential treatment, both de facto and de jure. Full stop. 100% due to preferential treatment.

From a local college:
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"...Rather than rendering affirmative action plans that merely represent a compilation of policies, procedures and prohibited practices solely designed to avoid discrimination, these action-oriented elements ensure that this Plan becomes a pro-active, aggressive tool as opposed to a passive document...

...assist in identifying and overcoming deficiencies, increasing representation of qualified minorities, women and disabled persons within the work force and the student body and providing increased opportunities for under-represented groups, both in the area of employment and in the area of the student learning environment...

... If the recruitment process fails to yield sufficient numbers of qualified candidates from a designated protected group, consideration may be given to reposting the position..."

"... BHCC is distinguished by the diversity of its students: six out of every ten students are members of minorities, and more than half are women..."


So even though women are the MAJORITY, they are employed for all available positions before men can even be considered for the same jobs? Wat?

I remember this one time I took an English course. Some girl claimed her PC mysteriously deleted her paper and the entire document was blank. So she was forgiven the assignment. If she were a man it would have been an F. I could recount a string of such episodes here but I won't waste space.

I spent nine months laboring on an over-demanding paper because a professor said so. Concurrently, a girl who was far less able than myself didn't even show up to class and couldn't pass courses I slept through, got hers done first, a hack job about "cannibalism", and the requirements were sanded down because she wasn't as able but should make the same effort. If she were a man she'd have been dropped from the program for gross incompetence.

Most guys play video games because the world has nothing to offer them. Simple as that.

As Jubber would point out - and by God as my witness if we agree on anything it's because it's absolute truth - women prosper in today's organizations because of what he likes to call "the Pussification of America" and what I like to call "cultural pusillanimity and effeminacy", but it really refers to the same thing which is honoring eunuch-like behavior, obstinate and cowardly, regarding confrontation as evil, truth as subjective and incidental, and feelings of weakness and inferiority as something to be perceived as injustices not overcome as failings.

And what props this up? In a word: credit. It is through credit, supporting impractical laws and a standard of living totally at odds with the level of real productivity in this country, that keeps this house of cards afloat. In that sense we are no different than Greece, except where for them the albatross is labor unions and bureaucracy, for us it's this mess of consumerist propaganda and social engineering.

May God help us all when the credit dries up.

I really wonder where this is going. I wonder what the future will be like, within our lifetimes.

TLDR version: Jubber and Aestu agree on a social issue. The end of the world is imminent. No, really, it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:55 am  
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And as a white male, if you call any of this shit out people will think you're crazy. Or sexist. Or racist.

EDIT: They probably don't mention that in this recession, womens unemployment rate is like 5% lower than mens.

I seriously doubt women are at the top of the labor workforce. Construction, agriculture, animal farms? yeah, thats still men.

They use terms like "abandoned by their fathers" when much of the time, it's "the mother used the court to bar the father from his kids."

I like how yet again women are blaming men for shit like this. "Get married." Oh? Is this the line I stand in to lose half my shit? Sign me up! Divorce laws are archaic. I won't go into a marriage unless I'm getting a SERIOUS prenup.

Men didn't all of a sudden get disinterested in attracting women and having sex. Sorry feminists, but it's not our fault you hamstring us at every turn and stab us in the back, with no penalty to yourself. Men are passively exhibiting the fact that they know whats up, and are tired of putting up with your shit.


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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:08 am  
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Usdk wrote:
And as a white male, if you call any of this shit out people will think you're crazy. Or sexist. Or racist.


Lets discriminate to end discrimination.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:14 am  
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Usdk wrote:
And as a white male, if you call any of this shit out people will think you're crazy. Or sexist. Or racist.


Aha! But as a BROWN male.................


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
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I honestly hate white women more than any demographic in this country. Maximum entitlement.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
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Racist.

PS: Zaryi got her oil time through Aestu's Affirmative Action!?
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Aestu wrote:
I honestly hate white women more than any demographic in this country. Maximum entitlement.

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I like how yet again women are blaming men for shit like this. "Get married." Oh? Is this the line I stand in to lose half my shit? Sign me up! Divorce laws are archaic. I won't go into a marriage unless I'm getting a SERIOUS prenup


That reminds me, my English lit. teacher accused me of being sexist/discriminatory towards women when I brought this point up in class during a discussion of the women's right movement.
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http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/10/05/north-carolina-courts-odd-interpretation-of-equal-protection-clause/


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
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We had guys vs girls session in human sexuality class. Women are unbelievably retarded. We were discussing a video that the professor made about date rape (no, not the roofie kind, but the kind that you wouldn't even think is date rape). These are examples of what we talked about:

Girl: "We want to be on the same level as men in all scenarios."
Guy: "Okay, so even in divorce and rape? Women shouldn't be though of as the victim, they should be on equal footing and when both parties are stupid, it's her fault as well?"
Girl: "No, those obviously don't count since we're being violated."
Professor: "So you're basically saying you want to be on equal footing so long as it benefits you? Can someone else answer please?"
Class: "LOL"


Guy: "She didn't say no. In fact, she was into it."
Girl: "The absence of a yes means no."
Guy: "By that logic, the absence of a no means yes."
Girl: "I know."
Guy: "Wat."


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
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FACT 1: There is an inverse correlation between the length of FUBU threads and the consensus on the topic.

FACT 2: Anything that FUBU can reach consensus on is unequivocal truth.


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