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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:16 pm  
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I never said the CEO with the largest business is the most qualified. Any CEO that has successfully run a large business (or a couple businesses) shouldn't be immediately dismissed because they have a pretty fucking good idea at what it takes to create jobs and grow business. They probably have a good idea of what negative impacts the government's over-regulation could have on businesses, too. Hopefully, armed with that knowledge, they can help drive the country in a direction that is better for business (which is better for the people since it'll create jobs). Ultimately it's going to come down to the guy that has the best ideas on how to fix the economy; against Obama, that shouldn't be too hard of a pitch to sell to the American people.

If Mr. Schultz got into the mix, I wouldn't immediately dismiss his candidacy for the aforementioned reasons... even if Starbucks had a bunch of layoffs a couple years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:30 pm  
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Is Herman Cain starting the government from scratch and going to save the government from bankruptcy?

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I never said the CEO with the largest business is the most qualified.

If running a business makes you more qualified, wouldn't the same logic dictate that the person who runs the biggest business makes you more qualified?

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Any CEO that has successfully run a large business (or a couple businesses) shouldn't be immediately dismissed because they have a pretty fucking good idea at what it takes to create jobs and grow business.

From what I've read in this thread, the only way Cain became successful was by firing something like half his workforce. I'm pretty sure that's the exact opposite of "job creation".


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:39 pm  
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It doesn't surprise me that your ability to read and comprehend is on par with Aestu's. Try again, fatty.
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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:41 pm  
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Howard Schultz 2012!


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:32 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
they have a pretty fucking good idea at what it takes to create jobs and grow business


In other news, the decline of American industry continues while execs jump ship with golden parachutes.


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 Post subject: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:48 pm  
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1). Pizza Hut blows, there is a pizza place downtown run by immigrants from some Eastern Europe country that probably gets more business than both pizza huts in my town combined. I have no point here to make other than a large chain should be able to do that on the national level, at least to a degree.


2). Does ANYONE with an (R) before their name or on their voter ID card have any idea how a 'present vote' works?


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:31 pm  
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I was under the impression that "present" meant i was here for a vote, but i didn't vote yes or no.


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:39 pm  
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so is there a reason for the 9/9/9 ? Like did he do some math behind it or something or did he just say "hey, 9 sounds good; lets go with that."
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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:45 pm  
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Theories:

1) The 9% on Income Tax is lower than the lowest income tax bracket (10%), so everyone get's a reduction.
2) SimCity defaults to 9% for its taxes.
3) It came off a pizza box.
4) It's psychological; much like when you see something that is $9.99, it looks like it's less than $10.00 because it has fewer digits. (yes, it is less, but... yea.)
5) It's the lowest possible numbers that work while providing the same revenue to the federal government while being 'fair' to all.
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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:11 pm  
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Monotheist wrote:
so is there a reason for the 9/9/9 ? Like did he do some math behind it or something or did he just say "hey, 9 sounds good; lets go with that."


100% marketing. Guy should be good at it he ran a pizza place. Unfortunately marketing doesn't save countries.


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:45 pm  
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but it CAN get you elected.

rofl politicians.


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 Post subject: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:56 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
but it CAN get you elected.

rofl politicians.


Technically speaking ANY dumbass no matter how crazy or extremist can be elected under this system provided they can get enough people to vote for them.

We could in theory elect the Grand Wizard of the KKK or Kanye West or Fred Phelps, as long as they meet the requirements to be eligible to run.

How can you administer voter eligibility tests, in an impartial and nonpartisan and fair manner?

You can't. That's why politicians play gotcha politics relying on catchy phrases and slogans, logos, 'at least I'm not X', etc. It works for the same reasons people watch American Idol and who care more about Casey Anthony than a bill attempting to reform CPS and streamline the process of helping children. Drama sells. Sums it up.


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:28 pm  
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lol.

9.99 pizza = good for errybody
9.99 tax plan = so bad it hurts


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:25 pm  
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Battletard wrote:
2). Does ANYONE with an (R) before their name or on their voter ID card have any idea how a 'present vote' works?


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Because bills need "yes" votes to pass, "present" translates to "a soft no," as Deputy Republican Senate Leader Christine Radogno of Lemont put it.

"One use for it is when you favor an idea, but you think the bill has a fatal flaw of some sort," she said. "Another is when you have a conflict of interest. And another is when you want to play both sides of the fence . . . or to avoid casting a vote that your next opponent will try to take out of context."

Across the aisle, Sen. John Cullerton, a Chicago Democrat, defined "present" as "no with an explanation."

Cullerton said another use of the seemingly squirrelly vote is to "signify displeasure with the process, but not the concept." He added that you'd be hard-pressed to find members of the General Assembly--including key allies of John McCain--who don't use it from time to time for various reasons.


Apparently some do understand, but it's a nuance thing. Instead of doing some research into a term they don't recognize, they just decide it means something bad about Obama. The typical republican voter is only slightly more intellectually evolved than a dark ages peasant burning witches at the stake.


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 Post subject: Re: Cain's 9/9/9 Tax Reform Plan
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:36 pm  
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the 999 plan, if foresight has anything to do with anything...

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