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How long do you think the American government as we know it - three branches of government claiming authority from the Constitution - however warped, corrupted, hypocritical or marginalized, will endure?

That is to say - how long until America will see a change in its form of government?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I'd give us another 15-40 years.

I'm leaning towards the shorter time span though - pretty much the implosion is going to hinge on:

-Healthcare
-Social Security
-National Debt
-Oil

Growing public sentiment is against our government (both Republican and Democrat) because of its ineffectiveness in the face of major economic/social issues.

However, people for the most part are still living comfortably (aside from unemployed hipsters picketing on wall street ). Once that stops though, people will start to get pissed. The baby boomers all starting to retire is going to seriously fuck things up too.

So yeah, I think that's a safe range.

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If "change" means the same level of change as between, say, the Fourth and Fifth French republics, I'm willing to be a far smaller number of years.

If we're talking something like the change from Tzarist Russia to Lenin running the show, it'll take far more years of instability.

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I don't think changing the status quo will come about through the democratic process and voting. But I don't give enough of a shit to throw the first Molotov cocktail.

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Someone will. If these protestors on Wallstreet accomplish anything it will be that they were the early adopters of the movement.

What movement? How will a bunch of unorganized kids/thoughts lashing out at wall street (for whatever reason, I don't even know) change anything?

Oh, they won't change anything. I've said the same in several posts now.

I just know that when the shit hits the fan, or the first molotov cocktail slams into a treasury building and the US government begins to waver (in 15-40 years by my prediction) historians will look back on this Occupy Wall Street business as the first sign of true civil unrest. The early adopters, if you will.



Ironic that I just read this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/05/opinion/r ... index.html

They should be occupying Washington. The people at fault are the legislators not the ones entering into the system to make money. Many of whom lost their hat and ass in the fallout of all this shit too.

I personally feel the government has more culpability in this whole mess than wall street. I think wall street assholes are guilty of exploiting a broken system. Who is more at fault, the person who set up the system? Or the person that abuses it "legally"?

Blame the GOP/Dems for that.

They've had the better part of a century, the whole postwar era, to establish a relevant platform and agenda for the country.

The two parties ARE our political institutions, the representatives of our interests. And they have failed.

So now we are in a time of transition. OWS is a mob - it isn't an institution - and it will not become one - but it is a clear indication that new political institutions with relevant ideas and real plans are necessary.

What this is...is the same thing angry blacks were in the 60s...which is political money on the table...the blacks were picked up by LBJ and Nixon whether they agreed with them or not by passing enfranchisement legislation, and now the question is when, who and how the same happens now with these people.

You think now OWS is strange or novel or unsettling. But the next time this happens, it won't be a few tens of thousands on the street - it will be millions - and they will not tamely allow themselves to be arrested. It will end in bloodshed.



Red herring. Wall Street got the system they asked for, and they have had no compunction about breaking laws and morality along the way. Not only have they tried to subvert and manipulate the democratic process but they are actively opposed to paying their share of the country's upkeep.

Wall Street is completely to blame. Period.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You're blaming the runny nose for the cold. This whole recession is because of decades of miss-spending and bad legislation