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Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

Just wanted to let you know that Dan moved in. I seriously think you should come down for new years with nk.

RETIRED.
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If you're still in Ohio, he'd be coming up.

And Fant, if I visit my godfather (researcher at NIH hiyooo), happy hour could happen.

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I'm sorry, but this is a significant problem with Occupy Wall Street:

A conservative commentator from the UK (as if the UK right wing knows anything about fixing social problems) found an idiot and trolled him with red herrings, ("highest corporate tax rate in the world", "can't have everything you want") establishing a strawman basis (implying this dolt is what the movement is all about) to discredit the movement itself.

There are morons supporting the movement, morons opposing the movement - just like any political cause in history - and people like Azelma or this guy who can't seem to articulate why they believe what they do.

I mean, you never addressed my question of where your economic views came from, so what's your right to have a "problem" with the movement when you're no better?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Follow the YouTube link. He's not from the MSNBC, he's from the National Review.

I've never had any difficulty articulating why I believe anything that I do. I often make reference to books I've read (something no one else seems to do). When I wrote a narrative describing certain life experiences driving my beliefs, you linked a JPG of sleeping pills. So, I can only conclude you don't know the "why" because either you don't want to, or you don't have the patience for anything that's more than a five-second sound bite.

You are stupid and ignorant because you want to be.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I posted a sleeping pill pic as a joke, but it's ok that you don't get it.


I altered that quote because you're defending the occupy wall street movement using almost the exact defense that we used for the tea party movement, which you scoffed at.

Yes, one idiot does not make the occupy wall street movement a movement of idiots.

Just like one racist does not make the tea party movement a movement of racism.

You're ignorant because you think no one else is worth your respect except for long dead men.

I completely understood. Anything longer than five seconds "bores you to sleep". You just don't want to accept the repercussions of that fact (that you cannot understand the complex realities of this world if you don't have at least some patience and mental discipline).



Racism and idiocity are not comparable. Idiocity is probably inevitable in the human condition, race isn't. Idiocity is a quality, racism is an attitude.



They deserve respect because they've withstood the test of time. As one of them, Thucydides, observed, "It is in the nature of the weak to despise the strong." The truism certainly applies towards some people's innate hostility towards minds and ideas bigger than they are.

Idiots don't deserve my respect, and that's neither ignorance nor a moral failing. Understanding what is true and what is not is the opposite of ignorance; being able to analyze one's own views and attitudes is to begin to correct ignorance.

Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

How is "highest corporate tax rate in the world" a red herring at all? He corrected the dolt who said an untruth about corporations paying less in taxes.

Anyway Aestu, where'd you get your views?

I got mine from a variety of places:

-Observing what's going on in the world (newspapers, magazines, books, television)
-My personal experience, such as intricate knowledge of how much my company pays in taxes every year, how much our owners are taxed every year...how much I'M personally taxed every year
-Courses I've taken in economics
-My knowledge of what many of the Occupy Wall Street people are...which is people who don't really have ideas or solutions but just want to be "part of the movement."

I've said before that I agree the system is broken. I've said that I agree with some of the messages these people are trying to deliver. However, the three problems I have with the movement are:

1. Too much blame on Wall Street, not enough on the government itself. Both had a hand in this whole financial mess and have a hand in any unfair tax advantages/national debt/etc.
2. Too many people who seem to be rather uninformed and come across as simply looking for handouts and/or blaming other people for them not being able to find work.
3. Lack of a clear vision/goals, which is necessary for success, in my humble opinion


Am I too tough on these unemployed people? Hardly...I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that if they have time to go sit in a tent for 8 hours a day that they could have time to pound the pavement and look for a job. I don't believe that they can't find work at all because I know I could find work if I needed to....and as we (particularly you) have established, I'm nothing special. So if a moron like me can have multiple job offers out of college, surely these people could get them!



Anyway, you don't read what I, or anyone else on this forum, actually write half the time...so my thought is, why waste the energy? You'll just attack everything I say without even considering what it is that I've said. I understand why, because you think I'm an idiot...and nothing I can write or tell you will ever get you to change your mind. You don't respect me, or my views, so why do you even care how they were formed?

That's the problem with discussing anything with you Aestu, and why I plan on stopping (as so many others on this forum have done). It's simply an exercise in futility. I can't debate anything with a person who thinks I'm nothing but an idiot. If there is no respect, there can be no debate. I like to discuss things because I like to hear new viewpoints, and yes I like to learn new things. Yes, I actually LIKE having my mind changed when I'm presented with new information. Your goals for debate are to simply be "right" and basically "win" everything and show how the person with whom you are debating is an "idiot."

It's just not fun to discuss anything with you. I don't have a problem being shown where my thinking is flawed, I do have a problem being disrespected though.

It's a red herring because the high corporate tax rate is irrelevant to the contention that the many of the wealthiest (who own the corps) pay less of their income in taxes than many who are not wealthy.



On what?



Your company is a relatively small one and it is reliant on the system taxpayers and creditor subsidize. overall your experience as such is not comparable to the multinational corporations except insofar as you engage in the organized hypocrisy that is the American free market.

News. Magazines. Books. TV. Ok, all media under the sun? Be more specific. What works have you read? What news and magazines do you read?



You've been told why this is dumb. Wall Street chose this system and fights tooth and nail against changing it. Members of government have no stake in the status quo.

You presented the argument of of bribery which is a strawman because it doesn't happen, and you resisted changing your views about the USPS despite the factual and logical fallacies of your claims being repeatedly pointed out through informed analysis of your own experiences.



Hypocrisy for the reasons described above and elsewhere, amongst them that you are reliant on both handouts and social favor.



lol. Do you have a clear vision or goals, other than some vague idea of "success", and being rich because...you're awesome? Hypocrisy.



Correct, you're nothing special. You also benefit from extraordinary social and institutional advantages. Which they don't.

Millions who want to work are out of work. Go look at Craigslist or the lines at job fairs. It's not a "will to work" issue. Would you make this argument during the Great Depression, too?



Projection; I read almost every word on this forum. Just because some people are willfully ignorant doesn't mean that those who disagree are as well.



You're dismissing a very compelling alternative explanation here...



This is really your problem right there. It's called intellectual decadence or mental laziness, depending on who you ask. Finding the truth inevitably requires the thinking of thoughts that are not pleasant...i.e., not FUN to think. A lot of people can't do that.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Being uninterested in you running a lemonade stand is hardly a lack of patience and mental discipline. Of all the diarrhea of yours i've read on this forum, your lemonade stand is the one that you consider a complex reality of this world?




They may not be comparable as issue to issue, but painting thousands of people the same because of the actions of a select few is the problem, which you missed.



Unlike you, I don't think everyone else is an idiot. I'm fully capable of assessing a person's worth as good or bad, smart or stupid, or whatever, probably because I'm not too busy telling them how much smarter I am than they are. The problem isn't the worth or unworth of those long dead men, the problem is that you ONLY see THEIR worth and miss anything in front of your pulpit.



no one was talking about logic here, but I'm no longer surprised by your random digressions.

I talked about a lot of other experiences in that post, and yes the lemonade stand experience did influence me. It made me disdainful of people who waste money on bitches, and the experience rewarded (and encouraged) my willingness to choose my own judgement over the voices of the stupid and weak.



Not at all. The ideology and personages of the Tea Party are grounded in racism.



I don't think EVERYONE is an idiot. I do think that most people are.
Do you disagree?



Was a pun.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.