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I'm just curious, since you always love to cite the USPS as an example of the government "working" - why are they hiring advisers to help them figure out how to not bleed cash?

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... rvice.html







I guess you're right though...this IS a government organization working as intended. They just lost a huge deposit check I sent in the mail about a month ago...so yeah, thanks again USPS!

Raise prices. It's still a bargain.

I mean, do you say that it proves private industry doesn't work when airlines or car manufacturers make losses?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

The reason the usps is doing bad has nothing to do with the business the usps is doing, and everything with congress forcing the usps to pre-fund it's retirement plan for 75 years over a span of 10 years.

It's like you taking out a 30 year mortgage, and the bank turning around and saying "yeah ok now you're going to need to pay that back in 5 years instead". Your inability to pay doesn't make you a failure.

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Clearly we should take the free market solution and just rip up the retirement contracts.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Fair enough. I just think certain aspects of it are broken because it's a government run organization....meaning:

-They don't have to stay lean to stay competitive, so they will lose a lot more money naturally without any shareholders or anyone who really gives a crap
-Government pensions, need I say more? This is the biggest thing handicapping the USPS. Their retirement packages are absurd when compared with the average private industry package.
-They still fuck up deliveries - but I guess in the grand scheme of things it's incredible what they do accomplish...still, I think a private industry would be more efficient because they HAVE to be

I explained to you why your interpretation of the delivery they "fucked up" was incorrect. As to them occasionally losing packages to environmental damage - how often does Comcast fail at a connection? How often does Verizon bug out? What's the defect rate in computers or autos? Hell, how buggy are modern video games? Again, why demand government be perfect?

Government pensions. Given that the purpose of any economic system is to ensure the betterment of man, then what's the logic in defending the free market in that it produces a worse standard of living?

"Stay competitive". Not the point. The goal is to ensure the competitiveness of the system as a whole. It's called infrastructure.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Observe what's going on with labor in France/Greece and the problems of guaranteeing jobs for people and giving people ridiculous benefit packages. There has to be a happy medium.

Oh, and I'm referring to a new thing the USPS fucked up. I sent a deposit to my bank in August.....still hasn't cleared so I assume the check is lost in the mail since the bank hasn't gotten anything =/

How do you know the bank isn't at fault?
Did you send it registered mail?



Observe what's going on with labor in America or China.
There has to be a happy medium.

Meanwhile, the Germans, who are enjoying stability and prosperity with a system somewhere between those two extremes, are grimly subsidizing the whole of the European Union.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

1. True, I only have the word from the bank that they haven't received anything...so some mouthbreather in the mailroom could have lost it.

2. I did not - in hindsight perhaps I should have. But why should I have to do that...if the USPS is so great, shouldn't they be able to handle a simple envelope with a check in it?

Email.

Or stolen it, in one way or another.
Or shredded it, hoping to ding you for overdrafts and interest should your account be overdrawn.

A lot of things could have happened. No way to know. Why not ask the party that wrote the check if they have a record of it being cashed?



If you are mailing cash or cash equivalents and you don't get proof of delivery, you are stupid. It is just that simple. This has nothing to do with the real or perceived faults of the mail system, it's just good business practice. If you don't have proof that the person got the check then the understanding is you never mailed it.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

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That you're equating France with Greece shows you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

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Yea, the French are a bunch of faggot cowards and the Greeks have good food and local festivals.

Heh true, Greece is clearly a much worse and more ridiculous situation, but France isn't exactly doing too well.

True story, I went out on a date with a French girl about a year ago (no chemistry =/ ). Anyway she was telling me how young graduates can't get jobs because all the older people basically can't get fired....which was her reason for coming to the US after she graduated.

I mean, that sounds like it is a pretty shitty situation.


Let's not get into how hilarious it is when they freak out about the government trying to raise the retirement age.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39675729/ns ... nt-reform/