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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:46 am  
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Stories, worlds, environments, races, history and whatever else in a fictional setting can change. You nerds need to get over 'blizzard shitting on the lore', because they made the lore.
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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:04 pm  
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Stories EVOLVE, they don't just change.


Many of Blizzard's lore changes simply take an occurrence, principal, tradition, etc. they set up and throw it out the window. If it was the proper evolution of stories/characters it would make sense. However, they make lore changes to fit development needs which is why it is shitty.


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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:09 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
Stories, worlds, environments, races, history and whatever else in a fictional setting can change. You nerds need to get over 'blizzard shitting on the lore', because they made the lore.


And without the fanbase, that lore would have never gotten out of the notebook.


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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:20 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
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I admit it seems like a stupid expansion, but lorewise I don't know what they could do.

another troll invasion? more dargons?


as if lore matters to blizzard


Yeah, don't they just shit on lore whenever it suits them?

It's why I stopped caring about lore...because if they just change it on a whim, why bother?

Case and point: Night elves are the only race that should be druids. Sorry Moocows.


moocow paladins make me a sad panda
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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:28 pm  
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Monotheist wrote:
Azelma wrote:
Jushiro wrote:
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I admit it seems like a stupid expansion, but lorewise I don't know what they could do.

another troll invasion? more dargons?


as if lore matters to blizzard


Yeah, don't they just shit on lore whenever it suits them?

It's why I stopped caring about lore...because if they just change it on a whim, why bother?

Case and point: Night elves are the only race that should be druids. Sorry Moocows.


moocow paladins make me a sad panda


Yeah blizzard pissed on Paladin lore when they made Belf Paladins (but Squidgoats are shamans so we have to be fair LOLOLOL HERR DERR)...but at least they made a whole storyline to try to make it work. When they made Tauren paladins they just decided to take a huge, runny green shit all over Paladin lore.


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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
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Azelma wrote:
Yeah blizzard pissed on Paladin lore when they made Belf Paladins (but Squidgoats are shamans so we have to be fair LOLOLOL HERR DERR)...but at least they made a whole storyline to try to make it work. When they made Tauren paladins they just decided to take a huge, runny green shit all over Paladin lore.


Agreed, the squidgoat at least made sense, and they and their plotline did fit into the world pretty well. Yes, there was a retcon, but reconning is preferable to pretending nothing ever changed, and the retcon (who left where and when) is plausible. It makes sense that they can be both paladins and shamans, and their culture feels like it corroborates with their class choices (except hunter).

TBC was built around the squidgoat, but it's not just a "Disneyland Theme Ride", it felt like a cohesive universe. I especially liked the concept of emigration between the two worlds - squidgoat and Azerothians setting up shop on each others' worlds. I liked the way the human/squidgoat and nelf/squidgoat relationship was portrayed (and has been since).

Humans and squidgoat have an unequal relationship hobbled by human xenophobia and squidgoat overzealousness. The story of the squidgoat/nelf alliance seems to write itself. That is a hallmark sign of good character development.

And it could have been worse. They didn't make squidgoat ships or temples look like the Kremlin or Orthodox cathedrals, and they didn't make every plot element and location a Star Trek reference. The squidgoat aren't drunk on vodka or plotting mass fluoridation. (Interestingly, most of the squidgoat starting area consists of Classical and Persian references, not sci-fi).

I still think the squidgoat were great just because they were one of Blizzard's most truly original creations. There are dwarves, elves, orcs and now...pandas...in Azeroth, but the squidgoat don't look, act, sound or think like anything else.


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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:25 pm  
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I just read 90% of this thread.

None of you care if MoP is good or not you care if your friends will play it.

You can escape in WoW or you can find some other shitty game to try and fulfill what WoW has done for you all for so long.

MoP won't kill WoW and there will probably be two more expansions after this one, so sit tight.

No MMO will be more appealing once you've played WoW, Blizzard has too many resources.

I'm starting to doubt BF3 and MW3 can go fuck itself.

DotA 2 will be good, but the amount of terrible Brazilian players is going to thwart everything.

Don't bother with any other MMO. FPS's suck.


If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little.
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Stupid Aussies.
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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:00 pm  
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Search your feelings.. regarding TOR.. YOU KNOW THEM TO BE TRUE


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Eturnalshift wrote:
Stupid Aussies.



Quote:
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Stupid Americans.


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Rathmoon wrote:
Search your feelings.. regarding TOR.. YOU KNOW THEM TO BE TRUE



You can try and like it, I probably will, but, it's going to suck more so than Aion/Rift and Global Agenda (because it looks like it's going to feel like this).


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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
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I played the shit out of the bf3 demo. I'm going to love this game.


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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
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DotA 2 will be good, but the amount of terrible Brazilian players is going to thwart everything.


actually my worst fear is the stupid playerbase outside the BRs. the matchmaking is pretty good as pulling people from your region first. the problem being the current playerbase is less then 500, and that everyone is shit.





on the subject of "You've got to be shitting me Vidya stories", IGN gives Uncharted 3's graphics a 10 (along with everything else), and not Battlefield 3's grafix. They also have an ad on their front page to win an UNCHARTED 3 PS3 BUNDLE.

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAID REVIEWS. and people will eat up yet another terrible game because it has a 10 on it.
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 Post subject: Re: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me
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Yewluze wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
Stupid Aussies.

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Stupid Americans.


Stupid Warlock of Aus.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:56 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
I played the shit out of the bf3 demo. I'm going to love this game.

Amazon is delivering it to my door by the time I get home from work. See ya online!
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