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Answer this: Was that e-mail sent from Ron Paul to Jamie?


Yep. I'm willfully ignorant yet you're the one saying that Ron Paul is a racist but you can't provide proof from this dump of e-mails. Maybe Anon has something else that you have yet to see... but the shit you linked either, from what bit I read, is nothing. Even if I read everything I'm almost certain I'd come to that same conclusion... not because of my bias but because there's nothing there and you're trying to pretend like there is.

Since I'm so willfully ignorant (because I don't want to waste my time reading through some e-mails between two racists) why don't you copy/pasta the text FROM Ron Paul to someone else which shows Paul's support for one of these white supremacy groups. It should be pretty simple to find since it's so blatently obvious and established that Ron Paul is a racist.

The proof existed even before the email dump.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... rs/250338/

The answer to your question is: Yes. It was from one of Ron Paul's personal aides. Now if you want to argue that he personally has to have sent the email, then you'd have to argue that no crime can be committed by delegation. That is to say, short of taking a gun and shooting people, you can't be accused of murder or genocide.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

So what you're saying is there isn't anything in these e-mails that proves Ron Paul is a racist. If there was, you'd have posted it hoping for a "headshot."

If this e-mail was sent from a personal aide...
1) Why didn't the aide know who "Ron Paul's man" was when referring to the person who disrespected Jamie?
2) What's his name?

PS: You answered the question with a Yes when the answer was No. You're a willful idiot, you know that?

Sending an e-mail to someone isn't criminal... at least, not in this way. Ron Paul isn't forcing his aide to commit any crime that we know of. Hell, we don't even know if Ron Paul is aware that this correspondence is taking place... and if he did know, did he approve? This is a bunch of NOTHING and I love how you think it's some earth-shattering data leak that's going to discredit Ron Paul... so much so that you spent how much of your day un-ignorantifying yourself and playing connect-the-dots with a blank sheet of paper.

Alright let's take this discussion offline until we get some footage of Ron in the men's room with a boy.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Or how about we take this offline until you can produce proof of Ron Paul being a racist... like, instead of some pictures of little boys why don't you find the e-mails where Ron Paul was expressing his support for white supremacists.

PS: Decades old newsletters don't prove he was racist. If you read the article you googled...



Goodnight.

So he's either a longtime racist or a liar. Or both.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

There are quite a lot of things I disagree with liberals about, and when it comes to laying all my views out I slant left but I am very far from hardcore. Getting into an argument on some shitty forum only means I'm getting into an argument on some shitty forum, it doesn't mean I always believe what I'm arguing about. Not only that but I am always sure to be rather specific about the issue, which you, jubber, and eternal often lack the ability to grasp. In this thread alone I am arguing not that southerners are racist, but that those who fly the confederate battle flag while trying to ignore it's history are racist/ignorant/stupid. Like they routinely do, they cannot see such a specific argument and instead decide that the argument is clearly that all southern people are racist and dumb.

Frankly though Azelma, being labeled with a hardcore political leaning doesn't mean much coming from you. I would rather have a considered viewpoint and attempt to defend it than have opinions that change wildly to match whomever happens to be posting at the time.

Dvergar /
Quisling

If the kid turns out to be some type of "brown person," is he still a racist?

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I know that you are joking but in truth that sort of thing is more popular than you'd think.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Probably hard for someone to be a politician for a long period of time without also being a lying sack of shit.

Drominar, Petrous, Chronowrench

Proof.


There is none.

Fair point, I was definitely generalizing. I guess from your stances on all the issues I've seen you seem much more likely to be of the mindset "every conservative is an asshole" but if you claim that's not the case, then maybe it's true.

My main point, and perhaps this doesn't apply to you (pretty sure it still applies to Mayo), is that far to many people are close minded about issues because of their total leanings. They stick to party lines, and then cover their ears and scream lalalalalalala whenever someone from the other side says anything.

In this case, I agree with your arguments...someone who flies a confederate flag is an asshole, and while it's not guaranteed he's racist...I bet there's a 90% chance he's racist. 100% chance he's an ass who thinks the South will Rise Again.

Finally:



I think I tend to do this sometimes too. I don't think it's a good thing to argue about something you don't believe 100%.

You do that shit all the time azelma.

I don't think every conservative is an asshole, it's just coincidence that every conservative on this forum is an asshole.

That's just a joke.



If we had more people arguing for far-left ideals and toeing the party line I would be arguing as a conservative more. The vast majority of the time Jubber and Eternal will be right there with the party arguing for them no matter what, so I argue the counter to that. Mayo throws in a line than runs away, Zayri is gone, and when Aestu stays on topic his arguments and stances quickly become untenable because they're rooting in some psychotic fantasy world.



I wouldn't agree with your percentages. There's a chance the person is racist but I think it's far more likely they were taught at a young age that the south was right in the civil war and it had nothing to do with slavery. They have either never been presented with the reality, or more likely have been but refuse to acknowledge it.




Completely wrong. Attempting to argue against your stances is a good way to ensure you understand all sides and have made an informed opinion. Of course, that's assuming you accept facts. If you just throw that out the window and refuse to believe easily provable issues while claiming the opposite, like the south seceding wasn't about slavery, then you can't really be helped.

Dvergar /
Quisling

I disagree with the idea that the civil war was ONLY about slavery.