We should have some kind of system that tracks when people trigger an Aestu TLDR rant.
You call it TLDR and a rant because you're stupid.
No, it's really that simple. Either you're smart, and willing and able to engage complex ideas and shift your own views, or you're stupid, like a caveman with a book.
You make that choice for yourself. It's not the fault of me or anyone else that you don't like being called what you choose to be.
Aestu, a person can be smart and still not be interested in the bullshit coming out of you.
Perhaps, but that distinction doesn't apply here. Certainly not to you, and not to Azelma.
Azelma agrees with everyone "...but...", and you make trite little generalizations that you can never pin down or defend rationally. Neither of you really knows anything about anything at all. You aren't literate, well-travelled, open-minded, or given to engaging people who are unlike you.
Of course I have much higher baseline general intelligence than either of you, and probably higher than both of you put together. But that isn't a basis to discount your opinions - it's the moral difference, the difference in not intelligence but mental habits, that makes my views inherently better.
When my views are questioned, attacked, contradicted, challenged - I rise to the challenge, provide facts and logic, read through the opposing side's views, typically disagreeing but always internalizing the essence of the argument. I may never fully agree but I always take something away with me.
Good example would be the pet thread. Drominar and I clearly don't agree and never will, but both made some good points and shared facts, logic and information, and other people mentioned some things that hadn't occurred to me either, so my views will continue to evolve.
Or the GW2 thread. I'm playing GW1 now. Very interesting. We learned some things, good came of it, etc.
It's not that you refuse to engage me - it's that you awkwardly try and fail, then mewl away.
I suppose some smart people might not find what I have to say interesting, but if you can't even compete on that level, the distinction doesn't apply.
I didn't answer any questions though. You posed 3 questions to Weena, and I responded not to the questions you asked, but merely made an observation.
Replying to a question without answering it is by definition a non sequitor.
Fill in the blanks, then: what was the point of your observation?
It's always been a subject of interest to me. I notice it from you more than any other poster.
You've satisfied my curiosity with the first half of your initial response. I do agree that asking questions is the most effective way to foster communication and exchange ideas and information.
I also tend to notice this habit exists almost exclusively in the form of you asking the questions, and rarely being asked the questions.
The ability to travel has many, very clear economic barriers. To say that someone who hasn't had mommy and daddy parade them around the world is somehow less intelligent is pompous.
I disagree, because it doesn't matter why you haven't traveled. If you haven't traveled, you haven't traveled. Full stop. It's not pompous to say that I have gained a significant amount of knowledge through my travels that those who have not traveled simply will not obtain until they do.
Also, I don't find (and didn't find) Aestu's posts to be TLDR. Or your responses to him for that matter. TLDR is stupid, how can you be too lazy to read something? Aren't you on these boards to pass the time anyway? What do you have to do so badly that you cannot read a couple paragraphs? Maybe those of you who tout "TLDR" cannot read fast enough? idk...
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Man you are hilarious. I can't believe I ever concerned myself with what you thought of me.
You sent me PMs and tried to get us to assuage your guilty conscience on multiple occasions. You were frustrated, even enraged, when this was refused.
Azelma wrote:
2. having or showing knowledge of literature, writing, etc.; literary; well-read. - Because we haven't read all the books you hold in such high esteem that makes us illiterate? I guess every book we ever read was shit? Fascinating.
You haven't really read anything, least of all books you would be inclined to disagree with...and not even those books which you claim to admire and agree with but are ignorant of their most basic tenets.
In that sense, no, you are not literate - you are not well-read. You are therefore less knowledgeable, less informed, your field of view narrower, your ideas less incisive.
Azelma wrote:
3. characterized by skill, lucidity, polish, or the like: His writing is literate but cold and clinical. - Aestu, a charlatan with a propensity for making hyperbolic statements about the shortcomings of others without the wherewithal to rectify his own. How does one define irony?
Kaldoreii testified that Blizzard despised me but recognized my greatness.
There is no higher - no more objective - praise from those who have every reason to despise you. To be recognized where others are forgotten.
Azelma wrote:
4. having knowledge or skill in a specified field: literate in computer usage. - Remember that time I proved to you that I have a unique skill (the ability to build and rank web sites) that you, and no one else on this forum has?
You misunderstood my praise. You do not have the ability to build a website, and I still think that your "ranking" thing is just pure con artistry, mooching off perceived/derivative value rather than actually creating value. What I praised was your energy and drive in getting what you wanted, small-minded as it may be.
Azelma wrote:
5. having an education; educated. - Would you like to see my high school diploma? How about my college diploma? Can I see yours?
I have one, actually. It's in the rack next to me, next to some shipping invoices, receipts, tenant agreements, bills, manuals, and other assorted paperwork. That's what it means to me.
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education." -Mark Twain
Azelma wrote:
The ability to travel has many, very clear economic barriers. To say that someone who hasn't had mommy and daddy parade them around the world
Actually, they haven't. I've only been outside the country once, for a week, and it wasn't one of the more formative experiences in my life.
You can travel worlds in only a short distance. Within fifty miles of where you live, people live lives completely alien to you.
Growing up, I could ride my bike to forests unchanged since the days of the Native Americans, vast rolling countrysides and farms and plantations where peacocks and geese ran wild, observe mountain lions and rattlesnakes in the wild...to the Capital, Old Sacramento, the Crocker Art Museum - the seat of government for the most populous and diverse state...to rich WASP homes, slums, Mexican squatter camps, PWT trailer parks...to storage for Holocaust survivors, Neo-Nazi clubs...to say nothing of visiting the rest of the state.
You could just as easily do the same; it does not even occur to you to do so.
Azelma wrote:
Occupy Wall Street would think you're a dick.
You are projecting your world view onto everyone else.
Not everyone who claims a better world is possible is acting out of the same small and petty motivations that drive you.
Azelma wrote:
Let me ask you something, Aestu. Do you see us 24-7? Do you know who Usdk and I talk with or do not talk with?
Yes. It is apparent from your ignorance. You think the entire world is as it is for you, and anything substantially different from your own narrow experiences is a deviation.
Azelma wrote:
1.) Cab ride to the airport from the hotel in Vegas. The cabbie was originally from Pakistan and moved to the US when he was in his 20s. He was asking me where I was headed, I informed him I was going back to Chicago. We discussed the weather, and how he used to live outside of Chicago (Naperville Illinois). He disliked the winters and ended up moving to Seattle for 10 years. He moved to Vegas 4 years ago and loves it. We started discussing computers actually as he found out I worked in an online business. He was inquiring about what I thought on the Mac vs PC debate.
So fucking what?
Do you UNDERSTAND him? How is he different from you, for having his life experiences? How are his values different from yours - what he considers important? What are his hopes, his fears, his challenges, etc?
The very fact you think chewing the fat about tech specs is actually a meaningful conversation drives home my point.
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Azelma wrote:
2.) Plane ride from Vegas to Chicago. I sat next to a heavy set African-American male who was from Sacramento. He has a job at an Apple Computer tech support center (ironic given what I had discussed with the Cabbie earlier, no?). He was headed to Chicago because his Uncle had recently passed away. We discussed the business I work for, online education in general (he had graduated from a technical college in Seattle). He was definitely a nice single-serving friend.
Again...talk about your business...do you truly understand him?
His choices, his challenges? Why graduate from tech college? Why work for apple tech center? Does he think he's better than what he's doing? Why is his uncle important to him?
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Azelma wrote:
3.) Cab ride from Midway, to my place, and then on to the Northwestern/Ohio State basketball game where I was meeting up with a girl I've been seeing. The cab driver was from India. He could see I was in a hurry as I had 1.5 hours to get to the game and needed to stop at my place to drop off my bags (it was also rush hour). He was very helpful, but he could see I was worried about traffic and leaving the girl waiting. We then began to have a long discussion about stress/life/work/women. For stress he was talking about how he's like a turtle. He will get to where he's going, but he doesn't rush. We talked about society, how cops in Chicago suburbs will ticket for much smaller offenses than Chicago police. We talked about how Chicago cab drivers drive radically different in the suburbs. When it came to women...he came from an Indian background, so he was a little more on the conservative side (I overheard a conversation between he and his wife in Hindi earlier). That said, he was sure to mention that any woman who would be upset with me for being slightly late to the game, given my circumstances, would not be worth the effort. He then talked about balance in a marriage and his wife and 5 children. He said how he doesn't like his wife leaving the home when it is raining out (as it was then). He said sometimes you have to control to protect your family. I didn't necessarily agree with him, but I nodded politely.
This is a bit more interesting but this is a narrow anecdote.
Also are you sure he's Indian? His views sound more Persian or Arab. Maybe he's telling you he's Indian for political reasons.
Fanta, what do you think?
Azelma wrote:
So Aestu, do you see how using just this forum to form vast opinions about people like Usdk and myself is ignorant? No...don't answer that because you probably don't.
And yet my assumptions were proven correct by your own facts - not the first time this has happened at all.
Who is ignorant?
Azelma wrote:
Yes, I realize this was TL,DR. It'll be ironic if you don't read it (which you probably won't because it so thoroughly shits on your warped perceptions), since you accuse me of being "stupid" for doing the same things.
You're projecting again. That you do so proves my point.
Azelma wrote:
The fact is Aestu, you remain woefully ignorant in so many things. You sit in your room, at your computer, and tell the world how it should be run. You tear other men down who are far more successful than you. You chide others and their relationships when you have none of your own. You are a jester. A ridiculous portrait of a man wasting his intellect and contributing nothing to society. You are a leech, and a drain on all who come into contact with you.
Do you run the world, Azelma? How much bigger are you than the rest of the ants in the jar? Is the world understood through petty material things and careerism, or is it understood through learning and ideas?
In other words...you are suffering from cognitive dissonance...you are realizing your value system, equating your small minded office politics and PHB mentality, don't really mean so much in the big picture. Certainly a lot less than you'd like them to.
And so you project. So you acknowledge, begrudgingly, the greater wisdom of others, while refusing to do so equivocally, for to do so, would call your very life as you know it into question.
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