Interesting Reading: Why US Marines Are Traitorous Mercs

Usdk · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:47 am

Save us Aestu.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:54 am

Azelma wrote:

Both Neville Longbottom and Harry Potter fit the description of the prophecy. Voldemort then decides to kill Harry, who he feels is the greater threat (ironic given he is the son of a Muggle-born, while Neville is of pureblood ancestry), and thus inadvertently makes Harry fulfill the prophecy. The ironic thing, too, is that had Voldemort chose to ignore the prophecy outright, it would have never been fulfilled at all.

So, did Harry Potter fulfill the prophecy? Yes. But he only did so because Voldemort made him fulfill the prophecy.

Like most Harry Potter readers, you obviously never read Oedipus Rex.

In any event, it's an inane remark. How did Katsuya Suou from Persona 2 put it? "Fate is nothing more than a prediction too late. When something happens you don't like, you can just say, 'It was fate'."

Quote:

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

/rubs forehead

Clearly prophetic.
Clearly.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:56 am

And where are you from, Usd? Badass Land?
Where are we, right now? What's the theatre for your badassery?

What's your vision for defending freedom? How do you think it's done?
Tell me. I'm genuinely curious what your answer will be.

Yes the internet protects your freedom. Yes people who are smarter and more courageous and thoughtful than you protect your freedom. And yes you are stupid and personify all that is wrong with this country that you refuse to realize that.

Azelma · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:05 am

Aestu wrote:

Azelma wrote:

Both Neville Longbottom and Harry Potter fit the description of the prophecy. Voldemort then decides to kill Harry, who he feels is the greater threat (ironic given he is the son of a Muggle-born, while Neville is of pureblood ancestry), and thus inadvertently makes Harry fulfill the prophecy. The ironic thing, too, is that had Voldemort chose to ignore the prophecy outright, it would have never been fulfilled at all.

So, did Harry Potter fulfill the prophecy? Yes. But he only did so because Voldemort made him fulfill the prophecy.

Like most Harry Potter readers, you obviously never read Oedipus Rex.

I actually HAVE read Oedipus Rex, don't assume that just because I used a modern example that I am unfamiliar with the classics.

You forget that I had a classical education, probably because it doesn't coincide with your viewpoint of me being only slightly more functional than someone with down syndrome.

Yes I've translated Caesar's Gaelic Wars, Ovid's Metamorphoses, Catullus' poetry, and my senior year I translated Cicero at Ohio State (after AP Latin my junior year, they didn't offer anything higher...so we had to go to OSU to continue our education).

I've also read many Greek tragedies. Oedipus Rex and Antigone are the two I remember best, though.

It's one of the reasons I enjoy Harry Potter - as JK Rowling is also quite familiar with Latin, and the Classics.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:21 am

Taking a few Latin courses is not comparable to a classical education nor is that what I see as the basis for my insight.

Azelma wrote:

Ovid's Metamorphoses,

Give me an example of a Jewish influence in the Metamorphoses.

Azelma wrote:

my senior year I translated Cicero

What exactly?

Azelma wrote:

I've also read many Greek tragedies. Oedipus Rex and Antigone are the two I remember best, though.

http://www.bucketguild.com/phpbb3/viewt ... 8&start=20

Azelma wrote:

Yes I've translated Caesar's Gaelic Wars

Beyond my capacity to remark

I mean Azelma, maybe you shouldn't have posted at all or maybe its your approach but now you're just flagellating yourself.

Battletard · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:34 am

Aestu wrote:

Battletard wrote:

Pretty much what Tehra said. There's a difference between being offended (which I'm not, honestly) and being weary of pouring any effort into formulating any kind of coherent argument with you. The second a worthy point is raised, you change tactics and engage in personal attacks in an attempt to put someone on the defensive for unrelated issues. We all see right through it at this point.

The proof this is bullshit is that you did it anyway.

If what you said was true you would not have made a point of posting at all, much less then try to defend your doing so.

After you got done throwing turds and sat down and made a coherent argument, I defeated it with facts and logic. Then you went back to crying.

Well arent you just so special then. I've been defeated by facts and logic, I must retreat to my underground lair to resume 'crying'

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:48 am

Battletard wrote:

Well arent you just so special then. I've been defeated by facts and logic

Suspending disbelief, what if it is so? What if I am special, and what if you were defeated by facts and logic? What would you make of that?

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:39 am

Why are we arguing with Sheldon when we could be across the hall pounding the shit out of Penny?

Your Pal,
Jubber

Meowth · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:20 am

Up to 5 pages since I went to work and back. Nice.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:56 am

Dvergar wrote:

We're talking WWII, I'd rather fight Germans than Japanese.

I'd rather fight neither. I don't subscribe to the "the Japanese were so much more tenacious" attitude; that's post-war American propaganda circlejerking by brass/politicians to make themselves feel better about taking so fucking long to enter the war.

Battletard · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:54 am

Aestu wrote:

Battletard wrote:

Well arent you just so special then. I've been defeated by facts and logic

Suspending disbelief, what if it is so? What if I am special, and what if you were defeated by facts and logic? What would you make of that?

What if you really did defeat me with facts and logic, only to discover I had an entire mounted cavalry unit of Batman clones riding Unicorns ready to defend my underground lair anyway?

What would you make of that?

Drominar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:07 am

Yuratuhl wrote:

Dvergar wrote:

We're talking WWII, I'd rather fight Germans than Japanese.

I'd rather fight neither. I don't subscribe to the "the Japanese were so much more tenacious" attitude; that's post-war American propaganda circlejerking by brass/politicians to make themselves feel better about taking so fucking long to enter the war.

I'd rather fight the protoss because terrans are OP. Zerg4lyfe.

Dvergar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:12 am

Yuratuhl wrote:

Dvergar wrote:

We're talking WWII, I'd rather fight Germans than Japanese.

I'd rather fight neither. I don't subscribe to the "the Japanese were so much more tenacious" attitude; that's post-war American propaganda circlejerking by brass/politicians to make themselves feel better about taking so fucking long to enter the war.

It's not only about the Germans and the Japanese, the Pacific theater was much more brutal in terms of environment and meat grinder encounters. While the European theater had relatively few high-casualty-percentage encounters for the Americans, they were much more frequent in the Pacific.

Azelma · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:51 am

Aestu wrote:

Beyond my capacity to remark

Synth's prediction came true, though I doubt he foresaw it would be a simple typo. In my defense, it was 2AM and I was already an hours behind on sleep to begin with (long night with a lady...plus daylight savings). Caesar's Gallic Wars is what I translated. For some reason the first line still sticks out....Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres.

And the Cicero I translated was:

Cicero's Orations Against Catiline, Pro Marcello, and Pro Caelio

Funny you didn't ask about Catullus, since that was by far the most interesting/amusing works I cited. And what does it matter if the Metamorphosis has Jewish tradition or not?

@Jubber - don't call Aestu Sheldon...Sheldon has friends and can actually be amusing. But yes we should all be banging Penny....who is in this case, idk, Akiina?

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:37 am

Azelma wrote:

For some reason the first line still sticks out....Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres.

Probably because you were assigned to read A Separate Peace in high school. Or maybe just because that's a meme.

Who does Caesar praise as the best fighters in the region? Who does he claim are the worst?

Azelma wrote:

And the Cicero I translated was:

Cicero's Orations Against Catiline, Pro Marcello, and Pro Caelio

Tell me about women and their shoes.

Azelma wrote:

Funny you didn't ask about Catullus, since that was by far the most interesting/amusing works I cited. And what does it matter if the Metamorphosis has Jewish tradition or not?

I haven't read Catullus. I was quizzing you. You didn't answer.

It seems to me very strange that you're arguing a point (superiority of classical education) that I didn't make or mention in this thread, and you appear to be doing so dishonestly. If that's not insecurity I don't know what is.

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