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 Post subject: Re: Get ready
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:47 am  
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Aestu wrote:
It's not an arbitrary remark. People from those backgrounds seldom have the strength of character to play good, challenging games. Girl gamers, children of divorced parents and PWTs are the ones looking for the "A WINNER IS YOU" light flashing whenever they play the game.

They are people with low self-esteem, from backgrounds that actively discourage initiative and discovery, who have been shaped all their lives by petty and small-spirited ideas and people.

When they sit down to play games, they bring this attitude with them and drag everything down to their level. Devs, including MMO devs, have made the fatal mistake of trying to get these people to buy video games, to the detriment of the genre. Any good MMO must be willing to tell them to fuck off.


I just want to understand what you're trying to say here. Game developers should tell the following people to "fuck off":

1.) Girls
2.) Children of divorced parents
3.) Poor white trash people (I guess then shouldn't it be all poor people...or are poor black or hispanic gamers better?)


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 Post subject: Re: Get ready
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:50 am  
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If you two start I'm permabanning the both of you.


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 Post subject: Re: Get ready
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:17 pm  
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So you mean aestu automatically loses this argument because if he replies with a tl;dr or anything he'll be banned right?

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 Post subject: Re: Get ready
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:15 pm  
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Mns wrote:
If you two start I'm permabanning the both of you.


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 Post subject: Re: Get ready
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:49 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
I just want to understand what you're trying to say here. Game developers should tell the following people to "fuck off":

1.) Girls
2.) Children of divorced parents
3.) Poor white trash people (I guess then shouldn't it be all poor people...or are poor black or hispanic gamers better?)


Yes. And the latter is not a question of race, it is a question of culture.
You could just as easily ask what I think of hood rats.

To answer your question directly, the metaphor I once used for PWT is "like plasma in a centrifuge". It's one thing to be downtrodden, but it is entirely another to be what remains when all that is good and merit-worthy has moved on, if not to wealth, at least a reasonably self-respecting way of life.

I still believe that having pugged and raided with so many different individuals and guilds, I have a unique insight into the game community. Those who are PWT irl have a unique gamer culture and influence on the game, and I firmly believe they bear disproportionate blame for the demise of WoW.

Their degraded condition leads them to be both unable to accept challenge as well as unable to deal with the lack of gratification from overcoming said challenge. This has led them to drive much of the shift in culture and design in the game.

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The Degenerate is the most singularly pathetic creature in WoW. The modern-day incarnation of the timeless degenerate urban proletariat, this is the anthrope who has been rarefied to the lowest social grade like plasma in a centrifuge. Two thousand years ago, his ancestors were being handed out wheat from the Roman Emperor; a thousand years ago they were digging King Arthur's moat; five hundred years ago they were potshotting buffalo for fun; two hundred years ago they were stage extras in Oliver Twist.

Unintelligent, uneducated, undisciplined, cowardly and indolent, he is a member of the lowest social class of mean whites. He is marginally employed or on welfare. At best he is an enlisted man in the armed forces or works for Wal-Mart. The Degenerate has no face and The Man doesn't even notice when he goes squish under the soles of his loafers.

The Degenerate's lack of redeeming value predictably yields the same results in-game as it does in real life. He never has enough gold. He clings proudly to his few welfare epics like he clings to his worthless bling. He conducts his affairs aimlessly, without thought, purpose or direction. He has no drive for self-improvement. He does not realize how pathetic he seems in game just as he does not realize how pathetic his filthy trailer appears in real life.

In game, these anthropes are often quite social and form guilds with others like them, that are currently working their way through Naxx, and they are in fact quite happy doing so. Most servers have quite a few guilds populated entirely by Degenerates.

The Degenerate is an ineffectual addition to a pug raid. He can fill an empty spot in a zerg, but 25 of these guys in full 245 would wipe to Najentus and not even realize it.

Characteristic behaviors include:
-Under-communicativeness
-Extreme slowness of movement and speech
-Defeatism
-Excessive need for management and direction
-Gets lost easily
-Dartboard, even to the point of being bizarre, gemming
-Inability to follow instructions
-Illiteracy
-RP macros
-Ugly character appearance
-Lack of apparent symmetry in all things
-Tendency to blame external factors for failure
-Identity as the underdog
-Obliviousness to collective failure
-Self-content, especially in the practice of extremely behind-the-curve content


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