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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:25 pm  
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Kayllaira wrote:
I'm a total fatass at this point in time...


I wish I could meet some "fat" girls like you, you goober.

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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:01 pm  
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I have no problem with any of this.

This isn't because I like fat chicks, either. Because I do not like the whales some of these people are trying to become.

I don't have to bear the burden (pardon the pun). They aren't trying to manipulate or force. If these people are held responsible for their decisions, they can travel whatever road to happiness they want.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:11 pm  
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Weena wrote:
I don't have to bear the burden (pardon the pun). They aren't trying to manipulate or force. If these people are held responsible for their decisions, they can travel whatever road to happiness they want.


When these people can no longer escape their folly, they will not suffer being miserable any more quietly than anyone else would.

It will become our problem, one way or another.

That is life in human society - any society.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:42 am  
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That is just disturbing.

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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 am  
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and universal healthcare will be paying for their heartattacks, gout and diabetes.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 am  
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Usdk wrote:
and universal healthcare will be paying for their heartattacks, gout and diabetes.


ERs are not legally permitted to turn away anyone who needs care. And are much more expensive.

And aside from the question of medical care itself: desperate people - even if they are desperate because of their own mistakes - are dangerous.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:29 am  
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Aestu wrote:
desperate people - even if they are desperate because of their own mistakes - are dangerous.

This reminds me... have things gotten better in your life or are you still on your suicidal stint?

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There's something wrong with expecting people to accomodate you because you like to put more food in your mouth than necessary.

I thought a majority of your 'forward leaning' opinions were about accommodating and taking care of people in shitty situations, regardless of their contribution to be in said situation.
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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:31 am  
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There's something wrong with expecting people to accomodate you because you like to put less work in your day than necessary.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:08 pm  
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Am I the only person to view this thread title and hear Robert Plant sing "All of my rage"?


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:14 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
I thought a majority of your 'forward leaning' opinions were about accommodating and taking care of people in shitty situations, regardless of their contribution to be in said situation.


Being an entitled fat bitch is a shitty situation, yeah. Its in a different category than being unable to live on minimum wage or dying because you don't have health insurance, however.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:18 pm  
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People who deliberately make themselves less healthy to that extent shouldn't get access to public funds for health insurance.

AND should have to pay for two plane tickets per flight.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:18 pm  
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I agree with Mayo/Usd in principle, but in practice, the question remains: what do we do about these people?

If we are to let them die, what metric do we use to make that distinction?


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:22 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
People who deliberately make themselves less healthy to that extent shouldn't get access to public funds for health insurance.


I'd be fine with this if fast food is regulated like cigarettes or alcohol and effort is put forward to make healthier options made available to the working poor. Its a hell of a lot cheaper, more filling, and easier to buy a cheeseburger from McDonald's than it is to make a salad or to have a healthy meal.

EDIT: The point I'm making is that healthier options should be made available so people who can't afford to spend more than $5 on a meal have a choice between eating right and getting Burger King. If they wanna eat enough fast food till they pop when they have the choice not to, then fuck em.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:26 pm  
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Mns wrote:
The point I'm making is that healthier options should be made available so people who can't afford to spend more than $5 on a meal have a choice between eating right and getting Burger King. If they wanna eat enough fast food till they pop when they have the choice not to, then fuck em.


I think you're right that the cost and accessibility of nutritious food is an issue, but it's also a lifestyle thing. As the forum shows, these particular people are actually trying to get fat, and the same lower-class people who don't care to take advantage of condoms and abortion certainly aren't going to be more responsible when it comes to food.

Hence, I remain convinced it's a social enfranchisement issue. I think what is needed is better general (not health) education, healthcare, better employment, stronger families and more cultural venues.


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 Post subject: Re: all of my rage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:31 pm  
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The COST of healthy food vs junk food isn't nearly as prohibitive as people think, if you don't shop like a moron.

The ACCESSIBILITY is the bigger problem there. If people don't buy a lot of healthy food, vendors won't sell a lot of healthy food.

cigarettes and alcohol aren't regulated past the point of "you must be this age to buy this product," so it's gonna be hard to put that regulation on food.

At best, reward people who stay fit. Oh you're in great shape and dont require constant health care just to keep your lard clogged heart pumping? you get a tax break, because you're making it easier on the rest of us.


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