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 Post subject: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:26 am  
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Just curious but any FUBU'er connected to these programs, graduating soon (IT/Journalism degrees) with a good chunk of student loan debt and was looking for insider information on which would be the best to pay off the debt as quickly and efficiently as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:04 am  
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why not go into IT or journalism...?


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:26 am  
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Contact a recruiter and ask them what programs they have available. If you decide to enlist, ensure that all the promised programs, benefits and bonuses (with dollar amounts) are explicitly written into your contract.
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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:25 pm  
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Fantastique wrote:
why not go into IT or journalism...?


Ideally I'd love to, but I'm just weighing all options right now considering how much I owe, the current economy and the chances of me getting a job straight out of college.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:12 pm  
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cziiki wrote:
Fantastique wrote:
why not go into IT or journalism...?


Ideally I'd love to, but I'm just weighing all options right now considering how much I owe, the current economy and the chances of me getting a job straight out of college.

Where (if at all) did you intern for either degree? Because you're much more likely to be hired there following graduation than anywhere else, given that they know you and have worked with you in the past. Which, of course, is quite obvious given the nature of an internship, but it's still an entirely valid point.

(On a side note, if you plan on going into journalism, apply for "establishment" publications first. Seriously. What pisses me off about a lot of j-school grads is that they insist upon starting up their own "professional" blogs or other asinine ventures and then spend the next decade crying poormouth in want of a higher salary. Journalism isn't as much an art as it is a necessity --- providing information as objectively as possible to the reader should be your intended goal, and to do that you have to have an audience to work with in the first place. Food for thought.)


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:25 pm  
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Dagery wrote:
cziiki wrote:
Fantastique wrote:
why not go into IT or journalism...?


Ideally I'd love to, but I'm just weighing all options right now considering how much I owe, the current economy and the chances of me getting a job straight out of college.

Where (if at all) did you intern for either degree? Because you're much more likely to be hired there following graduation than anywhere else, given that they know you and have worked with you in the past. Which, of course, is quite obvious given the nature of an internship, but it's still an entirely valid point.

(On a side note, if you plan on going into journalism, apply for "establishment" publications first. Seriously. What pisses me off about a lot of j-school grads is that they insist upon starting up their own "professional" blogs or other asinine ventures and then spend the next decade crying poormouth in want of a higher salary. Journalism isn't as much an art as it is a necessity --- providing information as objectively as possible to the reader should be your intended goal, and to do that you have to have an audience to work with in the first place. Food for thought.)


I haven't interned anywhere yet for either degree (despite numerous tries, and several interviews) and I'm currently writing/coding for our universities newspaper. In the past I did intern for a small startup and a Marketing and Communications Intern but I didn't do much.

And yeah, if I go into Journalism more than likely it'll be working with an established publication considering I have no desire to attempt to start up a popular blog. I enjoy writing news exactly as it appears, no spin, no point counterpoint (the masses can make their own opinions off of what they read instead of just joining the cause of whichever news organization can yell the loudest.)


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:06 pm  
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So long as you're not on the lines, it's free money for 5 years and you get to act like an entitled douchebag who "served his country" around civilians for the rest of your life.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:14 pm  
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cziiki wrote:
Dagery wrote:
cziiki wrote:
Fantastique wrote:
why not go into IT or journalism...?


Ideally I'd love to, but I'm just weighing all options right now considering how much I owe, the current economy and the chances of me getting a job straight out of college.

Where (if at all) did you intern for either degree? Because you're much more likely to be hired there following graduation than anywhere else, given that they know you and have worked with you in the past. Which, of course, is quite obvious given the nature of an internship, but it's still an entirely valid point.

(On a side note, if you plan on going into journalism, apply for "establishment" publications first. Seriously. What pisses me off about a lot of j-school grads is that they insist upon starting up their own "professional" blogs or other asinine ventures and then spend the next decade crying poormouth in want of a higher salary. Journalism isn't as much an art as it is a necessity --- providing information as objectively as possible to the reader should be your intended goal, and to do that you have to have an audience to work with in the first place. Food for thought.)


I haven't interned anywhere yet for either degree (despite numerous tries, and several interviews) and I'm currently writing/coding for our universities newspaper. In the past I did intern for a small startup and a Marketing and Communications Intern but I didn't do much.

And yeah, if I go into Journalism more than likely it'll be working with an established publication considering I have no desire to attempt to start up a popular blog. I enjoy writing news exactly as it appears, no spin, no point counterpoint (the masses can make their own opinions off of what they read instead of just joining the cause of whichever news organization can yell the loudest.)

Considering that you're able to code and write, you'd be a huge asset to a digital production, particularly one that's less rigid in hiring practices. After all, what's not to like about someone who's able to simultaneously produce and implement content? Even if it's a smaller publication, you can still make a solid amount for an entry-level position.

Of course, if you absolutely cannot find anyone who's hiring, then perhaps military journalism could provide enough of a springboard for you to eventually find your way into the private sector. It's less glamorous and certainly more risky, but it is at the very least a sure paycheck.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:59 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
So long as you're not on the lines, it's free money for 5 years and you get to act like an entitled douchebag who "served his country" around civilians for the rest of your life.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:04 pm  
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do NOT do army or navy. do the airforce for IT. especially with a degree. you have a bachelors, correct? you'll make bank as an IT officer.

don't believe anything a recruiter says. ANYTHING.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:51 pm  
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Dotzilla wrote:
do NOT do army or navy. do the airforce for IT. especially with a degree. you have a bachelors, correct? you'll make bank as an IT officer.

don't believe anything a recruiter says. ANYTHING.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:07 pm  
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Here is my advice:

You're graduating from college. You do not enlist. You talk to the recruiter and ask them about officer candidate programs. If there is an ROTC at your school, that might be a good place to ask questions.

If you don't want your ass shot off, you join the Air Force or Navy and stay the hell away from anything dangerous.

If you're good with math, try to get into cryptography, but this may also require that you learn some foreign languages (Arabic is hard).

If you do get into an officer program, and get a commission, the number one thing you need to do is listen intently to what your senior enlisted people tell you.

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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:04 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
If you're good with math, try to get into cryptography, but this may also require that you learn some foreign languages (Arabic is hard).

If you do get into an officer program, and get a commission, the number one thing you need to do is listen intently to what your senior enlisted people tell you.




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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:08 pm  
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CIA/FBI an option at all? They get even fewer asses shot off.


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 Post subject: Re: Army/Navy/Chair Force/w/e
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:00 pm  
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my friend joined the CIA and the only thing he ever drunkenly let slip was that he once killed a man with a butter knife.


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