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What does loyalty mean?
And what do you offer that balances his "protection"?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Maybe he expects certain qualities in her too. They may not even be qualities you or I would find important. If they make him feel like she is bringing something of equal value to the relationship that is all that someone should ask for.

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Such as?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I don't mind protecting a woman, what I do mind is when she wants me to unnecessarily physically/psychologically/emotionally fight every man in a 500 mile radius for her.

Loyalty to me means not being a cheating slutbag. Defending each other when needed. Mostly it refers to monogamy.

I don't expect my man to get in a bar brawl over me, but I do expect him to intervene if I am in danger and not to be the source of danger. Women can protect men as well. I have protected many a man from himself :p Relationships are about perceived balance.

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Callysta of Reverence

This is an immature woman. She needs to grow the heck up.

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Callysta of Reverence

Tell me this isn't still the same fucking girl.

Yet you flirt with every man in sight. Doesn't that mean you're breaking your end of the bargain?



So either:

1) you arrogantly believe you never need "protection from yourself", and thus are the stereotypical sitcom-watcher that thinks that you the wife are infallible and your husband the dim-witted meatshield who would get lost in a box without you - that is the "balance" of your relationship

2) you are human after all and need "protection from yourself" just as often as everyone else, but expect to be treated as special and "protected from others" as well, therefore the relationship is unbalanced and hypocritical

Which is it? Or is the duality in some way flawed? If so, specify.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I think loyalty in a relationship is a little deeper than what Cally said (though protection and not cheating are very important).

To me, loyalty is all about being supportive. Offering advice, listening to issues, being encouraging, not preventing your significant other from pursuing their dreams, etc. Loyalty is caring for the person even though they make mistakes and maybe have traits that aren't the best. Loyalty is helping them improve on their weaknesses, while highlighting their strengths.



I'll give you a hint, it's warm, moist, and feels very nice.

Ha but seriously..."protection" is an important thing I suppose, but I think it's something that society tells women that they should seek. But really, how often does a man need to "protect" his woman in reality? In the rare event of a mugging, I guess it would be helpful to be dating a 6 ft 5 linebacker, but in reality I think it's impractical to base a mate selection off that. Now if you're talking about economic protection and support...that's something I think is a little more realistic. And again, I'd expect the same of any woman I were to marry. Basically, she has to pull her weight. Maybe she won't make as much as me, but she better have some sort of career and be able to throw money into the pot.


I think truthfully it's a lot more all the stuff I listed above...true relationships are a give/take of equal things. Everything I can give my partner should be given to me in return.

It's not the Disney/Societal bias viewpoint, but I think it's a much more egalitarian expectation.

A compress?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

That's who I'm referencing yes. I'm not really with anyone right now and I think I'll keep it that way.