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so you seriously think that people who get their houses broken into don't lock their doors and windows and have an alarm. also, i don't keep mine unloaded for that very reason, but do leave the safety on.



i seriously don't even know where to start with this, but if you actually think everyone who owns a gun is some hillbilly then nothing is going to change your opinion.

i'm not going to touch gun control either because surprise, just like every other pointless argument on this forum that is just a cock waving contest that never results in anything, for just as many points that suggest it's a good thing, there are those that say it's a bad thing. endless opinions on both sides of the argument that aren't right/wrong because everyone thinks differently.

That seals it for me. Him working at McDonalds parttime is useless info and not a cause for lamenting anything about this guy.

I"m not saying train people to shoot back at a situation like colorado. that's more than a little extensive. I'm saying if you're going to own a firearm, you need to get some form of training(dissasembly, assembly, cleaning, unloading, loading, firing, managing the safety etc) and then you need to practice shooting with it. This is more for your own safety than anyone else's.

As for home defense, have a pump action shotgun. They're relatively cheap, and no burglar in his right mind is going to continue down a dark hallway when someone racks a shotgun. You probably don't even have to have a round in it, no one's taking a step further after hearing that CLI CLACK, but you definitely should keep any and all firearms loaded and properly maintained. Elsewise why have them?

Alarm systems are a deterrent. They won't stop a determined person from actually gettin into the house. All I have alarmwise is a sign out front that SAYS I have a system.

My point about if everyone in that theater having a gun was more "if everyone carried a gun, a gunman would be less likely to go into a crowded area and start shooting." Not that I would ever advocate that everyone should carry a gun.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/justice/c ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Interesting video of the murderer as he sat hearing the charges against him.

It's interesting to observe his reactions. Not saying anything to his lawyer, obviously. Staring for long periods of time...taking deep breaths and making his eyes wide at certain sections. Like he's disinterested, or merely amused by the whole thing.

Evil and insanity are fascinating to observe, almost impossible to understand.

What he did was crazy but his reaction is perfectly rational. The court is a circus and the process a charade. Everyone knows he's guilty and will get the chair. The media is just there to cash in on the tragedy. The trial will drag on for eight sordid months with the outcome never in doubt. No wonder he's jaded.

If the hallway is dark for him it's dark for you. What if you wing a family member? What if he has an accomplice who comes up behind or backs his buddy up? What if he gets the drop? He's invading - if he has a weapon it will be at the ready before yours is.

Nothing you said about gun maintenance has any bearing on judgement in using the gun. People who are technically adept with weapons do crazy things with them all the time.

Crooks are people like anyone else. They're risk-averse and take the path of least resistance. They're not interested in storming the gates of your castle and raping your fair lady. They just want your stuff. This is why most burglaries do not involve a gun and crooks will take an easy mark - such as an open or unoccupied home - if they see one. If an alarm goes off they will not stick around. Why would they, when they can just try again elsewhere?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I read anti-gun control as

"Aw, c'mon. So what if people die to guns all the time. Don't forget that every once in a few shootings, a person is able to fend off the gunman with their own gun so everything works out fine. Not to mention the news story about it, oh boy!"

It'd be interesting to see how many murders and crimes are stopped as a result of CC permit holders. I'd wager it's not much at all.

In b4 gubbermen can't take mah gunz cuz freedum and rebellion against tyrannical gubbermen ftw

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

People die from cars. Fuck cars. We need to outlaw cars.

And people die from getting old. Fuck aging. We need to outlaw aging.

And people die from eating too much. Fuck eating. We need to outlaw eating.

And people die from overdosing on prescription drugs. Fuck medicne. We need to outlaw pharmacies.

And people die drowning. Fuck water. We need to outlaw swimming.

And people die from aneurysms. Fuck internal bleeding. We need to outlaw blood.

And people die from cold-weather related accidents. Fuck snow and ice. We need to outlaw cold weather precipitation.

And people die from playing too many video games. Fuck Blizzard. We need to outlaw electronic forms of entertainment.

And people die from exercizing. Fuck exercising. We need to outlaw being healthy.

And people die from construction of houses and buildings. Fuck laborers. We need to outlaw not living in caves.

And people die from wild animals. Fuck predators. We need to outlaw things that walk on four legs.

And people die from domesticated animals. Fuck them, too. We still need to outlaw things that walk on four legs.

And people die in their sleep. Fuck eyelids. We need to outlaw sleep.

And people die in elevators accidents. Fuck elevators. We need to outlaw methods of upward travel within buildings that is mechanical in nature.

And people die tripping on stair cases. Fuck stairs. We need to outlaw stairs.

And people die flying in airplanes. Fuck air travel. We need to outlaw the airline industry.

And People die from cars. Fuck cars. We need to outlaw cars.

I tend to think that the right to bear arms should remain in tact. People should be able to get a gun if they go through the proper procedure, undergo a psychiatric evaluation, pay all the fees, jump through the hoops, etc. then they can get a gun.

However, I don't see why any civilian needs a fucking assault rifle...

They mentioned something about weapons violations, I'd be interested to know what weapons he actually had. If they were illegal etc.

AR-15 assault rifle
Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun
.40 Glock handgun

I think it should come down to this.

Law abiding citizens should be able to own guns of any type because law abiding citizens... well, abide by the law. If a law abiding citizen takes their firearm and commits a crime, then they're no longer law abiding citizens. They're then criminals. (This is really easy, guys.) Normally, criminals become criminals because they don't follow the law and commit a crime... so if a criminal wants to kill a person (or group of people) then they're going to do it, regardless of the gun laws. Even if we lived in a world without guns we'd still have sick motherfuckers that are intent on killing people... it'd just be with knives, blunt objects, crossbows, chemicals, vehicles, explosives, etc.

Simply put, strict gun control laws take the guns out of the law-abiding individuals hands but does nothing to take them out of the criminals hands. That's why violent gun crimes still exist in places with strict gun control laws.


http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm

Control + F, "Aurora"
Gives you an idea of the firearm related laws that he broke... not to mention all the other laws which could've been broken without the use of a firearm... you know, like killing people, dispensing tear gas in a movie theater and trying to booby-trap an apartment to kill whoever walked inside.

Hey that's cool, people die from guns and that's what guns are designed to do. People die from cars, choking on popcorn, roller coasters, falling into the Sarlaac pit, etc...but here's the kicker, guns are designed to kill. They serve no other purpose.

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming