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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:17 pm  
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Mediocrities try to find fault with everyone above their level. You think that I am not average, therefore, I must be full of it. Right? So in your brain, everyone who is good is average. Mediocrity incarnate.

Skilled readers can modulate their pace. I can scan even faster than I did with that passage, but that would cost a lot of comprehension. I sometimes find it necessary to spend many minutes on a single paragraph. It is the same mental habit that people develop naturally with examining objects visually.

The passage you linked was not dense or complex, it was written at an elementary school level. That's not a negative reflection on MM, just saying, it doesn't take long to read something that simple.


Scanning =/= reading

I don't doubt that you scan things...which is why you routinely make incorrect assumptions, claim things are said that were never said, and so on.

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Obviously I have better critical thinking skills than you and a far broader knowledge base. So clearly I am reading something.


According to whom? You? Because you say so?

Prove it.

You can't.


Anyway, we're all off topic once again and into a pissing contest. I'll just concede that you can read faster and comprehend more than anyone I've ever known. You're right, I only can understand or commend average. Anything that isn't average is automatically considered to be fake by me.

Can I send you a copy of Atlas Shrugged and Les Miserables? PM me your address. I assume you could have them both read in 8 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:18 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
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Where could he afford to buy this shit? That gear is expensive!


That's what I was saying D:


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As for home defense, have a pump action shotgun. They're relatively cheap, and no burglar in his right mind is going to continue down a dark hallway when someone racks a shotgun. You probably don't even have to have a round in it, no one's taking a step further after hearing that CLI CLACK, but you definitely should keep any and all firearms loaded and properly maintained. Elsewise why have them?


They sure as fuck wouldn't expect an arrow to the chest. I keep my cheap bow strung at all times. I do keep my 45# unstrung, but it only takes a second to string it.


The reason I picked a shotgun is because the loud sound it makes when you cock it, and the almost universal understanding of the connotations of that sound. That's the deterrent. A bowstring? I feel like you're fucking with me, even though bow shooting is awesome.



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No, I don't hunt, the silencers were on them already and since they were awesome and fluffy, I left them there :3 What I meant about the string was that generally you keep bows unstrung - keeping the string on all the way weakens the bow and you get "string follow". Basically it doesn't go back to the proper form when it's unstrung, and the bow loses power.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:24 pm  
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Well I mean I know how bows work.

Interesting that you have some. + 2 cool points.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:25 pm  
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Prove I have more general knowledge and analytical ability than you? Uhh. GMAT and FSOT work for you? Or maybe just ask anyone who knows us both? Or do you think I have less as such than you, is that your contention?

If you don't want to make things into a pissing contest then don't pass the first stone.

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Can I send you a copy of Atlas Shrugged and Les Miserables? PM me your address. I assume you could have them both read in 8 hours.


I could not, for the reasons I described. Which is also why I haven't read them.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:56 pm  
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Well I guess I'll just have to take the GMAT and/or the FSOT to compare my scores to yours!

No but seriously, you have no evidence to prove that your critical thinking skills are superior to mine across the board. But you're right, I started pissing first, so I will shake my dick and be on my way.



Back to the topic - apparently some douche kid pulled a fire alarm in an AMC the other day and freaked everyone in the theatre out. Got me thinking, what are the odds of a copycat attack occurring within the next...ohh....year or so?


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:00 pm  
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I'd say nil.

I don't recall there being any copycats of columnbine or VT either.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:08 pm  
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I'd say nil.

I don't recall there being any copycats of columnbine or VT either.


There were a number of people who got turned in the second they mentioned "pulling a Columbine" because people were scared. There might have been a possibility of it happening. I have a feeling people will threaten to do this, but whether or not they could actually pull it off is another story.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:28 pm  
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Prove I have more general knowledge and analytical ability than you? Uhh. GMAT and FSOT work for you? Or maybe just ask anyone who knows us both? Or do you think I have less as such than you, is that your contention?

If you don't want to make things into a pissing contest then don't pass the first stone.


I don't care if you pass the NY State Bar on the first try or have earned perfect scores on any given number of tests, your reading comprehension has a tendency to slump into complete shit to the point where some of your responses make absolutely no sense. I used to think that was just me being paranoid, but Callysta and a few others here have noticed it, as well. It makes it very difficult to have a conversation here sometimes. It almost seems like you're getting "A" when what is being communicated is "Z." If you can't be bothered to read a post, you probably shouldn't commenting on it.

However, as everyone has complained by now, the purpose of this thread is not to give you shit. Just keep in mind that your "extraordinary" cognitive abilities don't work when you don't actually apply them, and instead simply "scan" something and say you've read it.

Now that the tragedy is over, and we've gotten through the few days of idiocy over how this is all caused by violence in movies and video games, let me pitch a bitch over something different and share something I just read:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087 ... rialPage_h

"An off-duty Los Angeles police officer and three bodybuilder friends have been arrested for allegedly punching and kicking a New York man in an alley near a cafe on West Hollywood's Restaurant Row," the Los Angeles Times reported July 30, 1991.

The foursome, including 25-year-old Officer Scott Defoe, "were leaving Pennyfeathers Cafe on La Cienega Boulevard at 3 a.m. Sunday when one of the four kicked a chair occupied by 33-year-old Jianvy Morales, a visitor from the Bronx." An exchange of "angry words" ensued, whereupon the suspects allegedly chased Morales out of the restaurant.

"When they caught up with him, they ripped off his leather coat, knocked him down and began hitting and kicking him while he was on the ground," a sheriff's spokesman told the Times. By the time deputies arrived, the suspects had fled the scene, "skipping out on a $50 tab," according to the restaurant's owner.

We're glad this was only a local story. Had it been a national one, investigative reporter Brian Ross might have blamed us on national television.

"Those arrested along with Defoe were Edward Spencer, 29, Ken Spencer, 27, and James Taranto, 27, all of Staten Island, N.Y.," the Times report added.

That James Taranto, you will be relieved to learn, was not the one who became your humble columnist. We were, however, also in our mid-20s; we lived not far from Staten Island, in New Jersey; and it would not have been unusual for us to visit the Los Angeles area, where our parents lived. On the other hand, we were not a bodybuilder; it would be many years before we set foot in a gym.

James Taranto is not a common name, but unlike, say, Barack Obama, neither is it unique. Father James Taranto is a pastor at St. Mark's Catholic Church in Independence, Mo. Jimmy Taranto used to play soccer for the University of Virginia; according to his bio at the UVA website, his father is called Jim. Another Jim Taranto "is a certified 'short sale expert' with certification from the prestigious 'Distressed Property Institute' of South Florida," according to the ActiveRain Real Estate Network. According to HowManyOfMe.com, there are 36 James Tarantos in the U.S.

Men named James Holmes are much more numerous: HMOM.com puts the count at 2,909. Last night, police say, one of them opened fire in a crowded Aurora, Colo., movie theater, killing at least 12 people and injuring dozens more. Courtesy of Breitbart.com, here is how Brian Ross, ABC News's chief investigative correspondent, reported the story this morning on "Good Morning America" with George Stephanopoulos:

Stephanopoulos: I'm going to go to Brian Ross. You've been investigating the background of Jim Holmes here. You found something that might be significant.
Ross: There's a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colo., page on the Colorado Tea party site as well, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now, we don't know if this is the same Jim Holmes. But it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colo.
Stephanopoulos: OK, we'll keep looking at that. Brian Ross, thanks very much.
This would be more understandable--although still outrageous--if the shooter had an uncommon name like James Taranto. With a common name, however, the likelihood is quite high that a match like this one is false.

Breitbart later interviewed the Tea Party Jim Holmes and confirmed that he is not the shooting-suspect James Holmes. The former "is a 52-year-old Hispanic conservative who joined the Tea Party after becoming disillusioned with the Republican party. . . . He disconnected his telephone and says that he is worried about members of his family who might be contacted by the media."

The shooting suspect, ABC later reported, is a 24-year-old Ph.D. candidate. Other reports say he is white, and he does not appear to be Hispanic. Politico notes that the network has corrected and apologized for the error:

"An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect," ABC News said in a statement. "ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted."
This strikes us as insufficient. Simply as a matter of journalistic craft, the report was appallingly shoddy. Ross pointed the finger at an innocent man based on nothing but the coincidence of a common name and the man's residence in the same city of 325,000 where the crime took place.

Let us amend that. There was one other factor, and this is what makes the ABC error not just amateurish but sinister: the innocent Jim Holmes's involvement with the Tea Party. For more than three years liberal journalists have falsely portrayed the Tea Party as racist and potentially violent. After the January 2011 mass shooting in Tucson, Ariz., speculation immediately began that the suspect was a Tea Partier. Even after it was proved that he was not, the New York Times published a despicable editorial blaming conservatives anyway.

Ross and ABC were out on this limb alone. Either other journalists learned their lesson from Tucson, or it didn't occur to them to look for a political motive this time (it was a more plausible hypothesis in a shooting that targeted a politician).

It is reasonable to interpret Ross's hasty unsubstantiated report as an expression of hostility--bigotry--toward the Tea Party and those who share its values, which are traditional American ones. ABC's carelessness here is in sharp contrast with the way the mainstream media treat criminal suspects who are black or Muslim. In those cases they take great pains not to perpetuate stereotypes, sometimes at the cost of withholding or obscuring relevant facts such as the physical description of a suspect who is still at large or the ideological motive for a crime.

Oikophobia is no less invidious than other forms of bigotry. ABC and Ross have apologized for their irresponsible reporting, but they have something more to answer for here. Their careless and inadvertent falsehood was in the service of a big lie.


Good to know we could all let this pass without it becoming fodder for political debates and finger-pointing, isn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:30 pm  
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The only common elements between you, Callysta and Azelma is that you are all very insecure and ignorant people (and provably so on both points) who tend to disagree with me.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:41 pm  
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Ah, of course, I forgot that your failings had nothing to do with you being at all fallible, and are only the deranged imaginings of everyone who disagrees with you (which at some point is, of course, everyone in general).

Don't get all butthurt about it. Just pay attention in the future. If you can take the time to pen 4,000 words of insanity, you can take the time to read 4,000 words of insanity from someone else.

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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
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Nobody can read Atlas Shrugged in 8 hours, or any amount of hours. Everyone dies of boredom and idiot overload long before the last page.

I find it interesting that the news specifies "Ph.D. candidate." Passive-aggressive anti-intellectualism at work.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:06 pm  
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That is not a proper usage of the word "oikophobia".

The irony of a libertarian movement playing the victim card is seemingly lost on you. In any event, the Tea Party can't say anyone has an irrational reason to hate it. If so, what would it be?

That article is propaganda designed to play on your emotions and bypass your weak critical thinking abilities. It begins with an outrage that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic of the article, a topic which is pretty insipid since such mistakes are common. It's no coincidence that you link that article after complaining about someone else's lack of reading comprehension/critical thinking. You're psychologically compensating. Brainwashing at work.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
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