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 Post subject: Mixed feelings about this....
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:26 am  
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/aurora-shooting-medical-bills-_n_1704209.html?1343264789&icid=maing-grid7|aim|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D184191

I understand that most of the shooting victims are probably uninsured and probably have no way to pay the ridiculous fees charged by hospitals, doctors and rehabilitation facilities, and I don't begrudge them this good thing, but why take better financial care of them than others simply because their misfortune was a high-profile media event? Can't they take advantage of the normal mechanisms that are in place for everyone who suffers and can't pay? I wonder how that Aurora family feels who are drowning in medical bills after their kid got hit by a car while riding his bike? Where are their comped bills?

I dunno... something about this irritates me. I guess I'm just suspicious of the true motivation behind this.


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 Post subject: Re: Mixed feelings about this....
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Will you Americans make health care free already


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Jushiro wrote:
Will you Americans make health care free already


Free as in, it won't cost anyone anything? Including taxpayers?


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You already know the answer to that question.


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Boredalt wrote:
I dunno... something about this irritates me. I guess I'm just suspicious of the true motivation behind this.


Americans love a happy ending.


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 Post subject: Re: Mixed feelings about this....
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:08 am  
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Jushiro wrote:
You already know the answer to that question.


I know, just trolling.

I think a lot of times people say "yes X should be free" and they don't realize or really think about the fact that it's not really free. Nothing is free.


But yeah,

As for this, Aestu is spot on. Americans love a happy ending. Complete PR stunt.


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Azelma wrote:
I think a lot of times people say "yes X should be free" and they don't realize or really think about the fact that it's not really free. Nothing is free.


I know what you're getting at, but there are certain things that should be paid for by the country through taxes or whatever other means.

One of those is health care for all citizens.



Slightly related: I remember watching breaking bad and thinking

"None of this would have happened in Canada...."

You wouldn't need to turn to crime to pay for medical bills because they're paid through your taxes.


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Jushiro wrote:
Azelma wrote:
I think a lot of times people say "yes X should be free" and they don't realize or really think about the fact that it's not really free. Nothing is free.


I know what you're getting at, but there are certain things that should be paid for by the country through taxes or whatever other means.

One of those is health care for all citizens.


Agreed.



Jushiro wrote:
Slightly related: I remember watching breaking bad and thinking

"None of this would have happened in Canada...."

You wouldn't need to turn to crime to pay for medical bills because they're paid through your taxes.


Well now, if you watch Breaking Bad...Walt really didn't have to resort to crime for his medical bills for a myriad of other reasons..... ;p

But I see your point.


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Oh, sweet! You mean in Canada I have no say in whether I pay for a future service I may, or may not, ever use?

(PS: We already do that in America. Medicare/Medicaid, anyone?)
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...and I'm proud to be a Canadian, where at least my health care's free"


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Eturnalshift wrote:
Oh, sweet! You mean in Canada I have no say in whether I pay for a future service I may, or may not, ever use?

(PS: We already do that in America. Medicare/Medicaid, anyone?)



Oh you're right, we should just leave hospitals to be for profit corporations.


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Back to the original fucking point.

People get shot all the time. It's not always in a batman movie and it doesn't always get mad media coverage, and christian bale doesn't always come visit you in the hospital.

They should take the help for their medical bills and donate any extra to charity.


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Eturnalshift wrote:
(PS: We already do that in America. Medicare/Medicaid, anyone?)

Don't forget the individual mandate. At least in canada, you're forced to pay into healthcare via taxes and said healthcare won't magically evaporate the moment you need it and you won't have to choose between the life of a loved one or bankruptcy.


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Eturnalshift wrote:
I have no say in whether I pay for a future service I may, or may not, ever use?


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 Post subject: Re: Mixed feelings about this....
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Slightly related: I remember watching breaking bad and thinking

"None of this would have happened in Canada...."


Is this the part where I say he dies waiting in line for treatment?

That would make for a very poor show.


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