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 Post subject: Re: Mixed feelings about this....
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:40 pm  
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Weena wrote:
Is this the part where I say he dies waiting in line for treatment?


And this is the part where I ask "what makes you think that" and you give a snarky retort rather than simply admit you get all your ideas about what the world is like from Pravda.


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 Post subject: Re: Mixed feelings about this....
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:17 pm  
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I dunno... something about this irritates me. I guess I'm just suspicious of the true motivation behind this.


What irritates me is that apparently one in three residents of Colorado have no (or insufficient) healthcare. How are we a first-world country? Like, at all? This is a disgrace.


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I think people are more concerned about having a job than having health care at this point.


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We aren't a first world country, we're just really good at pretending to be.


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Weena wrote:
Is this the part where I say he dies waiting in line for treatment?

That would make for a very poor show.


This is somewhat true, there are very long waits for certain things.

Emergency services get pushed through quickly though.


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Jushiro wrote:
Weena wrote:
Is this the part where I say he dies waiting in line for treatment?

That would make for a very poor show.


This is somewhat true, there are very long waits for certain things.

Emergency services get pushed through quickly though.


Don't people take advantage of that? Claiming things are emergencies when they aren't to get pushed through?


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People do it in the US too. ERs are not permitted to turn anyone away.

The abuse is more rife and costly here because we do not have any other means of guaranteed care and ERs are the most uneconomical avenue of care there is. Because Canada offers preventative and clinical care, this abuse is less common.

In any situation in the Canada where it would be necessary to go to the ER for want of care, it would be necessary to do so in the US, but the reverse is not true. Therefore, it is more frequent here.


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 Post subject: Re: Mixed feelings about this....
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"the Canada" lol


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Boredalt wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/aurora-shooting-medical-bills-_n_1704209.html?1343264789&icid=maing-grid7|aim|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D184191

I understand that most of the shooting victims are probably uninsured and probably have no way to pay the ridiculous fees charged by hospitals, doctors and rehabilitation facilities, and I don't begrudge them this good thing, but why take better financial care of them than others simply because their misfortune was a high-profile media event? Can't they take advantage of the normal mechanisms that are in place for everyone who suffers and can't pay? I wonder how that Aurora family feels who are drowning in medical bills after their kid got hit by a car while riding his bike? Where are their comped bills?

I dunno... something about this irritates me. I guess I'm just suspicious of the true motivation behind this.

Perhaps we should start another fundraiser. It should be able to raise at least 10 times as much as the one for the lady who was called fat, right?


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