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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:24 pm  
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-A series of emails in which his aides thanked white supremacist movements for their support, saying "Ron would like to say thanks, but he can't because it would be political suicide". (read transcript, pg. 8-15)


Here's the entirety of page 8.
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# Subject: Tom to Kevin and A3P friends, suggestion
# From: Tom Sunic
# Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:04:51 +0100

Kevin,

During our last conference call I made a brief remark about our new members.

I do not mind flying over at my own expense - at an appropriate time - and do
some community work.

I think it would be a good idea for both of us to stage some ad hoc, informal
meetings, gatherings in LA, the Bay Area with folks from all walks of life and
do some educational work. Not too academic - just simple lingo. I do not mind if
some skinheads come over. There is some potential there too.

It could benefit also Mervinís campaign, especially when our members are
confronted by the hostile and ignorant media. The usual suspect questions
nationalist and sympathizers have to field, both here and in the USA, are:

1. Are you folks anti-Semites?

2. Are you guys racists?

I guess we could teach, coach our tentative listeners, our potential new
members, how to avoid false and self- defeating disclaimers and how to sound
more mundane and credible.


Doing a search for your quote "Ron would like to say thanks, but he can't because it would be political suicide", turns up no results in the document.

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Alright so what does this have to do with the A3P. It is not clear if anyone form the A3P ever met with Ron Paul or had any real contact with him. Those claiming some ties to an organizer for Ron Paul appear to have sent some emails to Mr. Kelso or got emails from him. Outside of that there is little to tie the A3P to Ron Paul.

Your sources words, not mine.

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Racist articles written by Ron Paul, or in his name, in the 1990s (the distinction is irrelevant because he took responsibility for them)

The equivalent of an accident. You hit someone with a car, it doesn't mean you wanted them to get hurt, but you take responsibility for them getting hurt.

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Ron Paul gives speech in front of Confederate flag about how South was right during Civil War



The entire speech talks about the constitutionality of the south leaving, and the negative impacts of the South not being allowed to secede (that nobody brings up because A. They don't think about it. or B. They don't want to get demagogued.). It's a commentary on what became the first foot of a slippery slope. The issue wasn't the north's motives, but their methods.

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White supremacists give Ron Paul money and appear with him in public

So what?

Again white supremacist supporting Paul =/= Paul supporting white supremacy. What's funny is you most certainly have the critical thinking skills to figure this out.

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Ron Paul actively supported white supremacist violence

What you say, and what the article you link says are two different things.

Actively supporting the violence would be providing resources and/or organizing it.

Your article says he simply knew about it.

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The leader of the group, Michael Perdue, would plead guilty to planning the coup and turned state’s evidence. Perdue would testify that several other people helped organize and fund the coup and that two Texas politicians were aware of the plan. Among those Perdue implicated were infamous white supremacist, David Duke, former Texas Governor, John Connally and Congressman, Ron Paul whom he claimed knew about the plot.


Now, let's see if I can google other sources, maybe something from a credible news source:

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&g ... 30&bih=574

Hmmm...

This site
http://ww4report.com/node/10745

Says

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Big kudos to the African American-oriented NewsOne website for relentlessly calling out Ron Paul's ties to the white supremacist radical right. Now they have dug up an unseemly affair covered by the New York Times in 1981—today disgracefully ignored by the supposed "liberal media"!—that implicates the supposed "libertarian" presidential hopeful in an attempted mercenary invasion and coup d'etat to establish a white separatist homeland in the Black-majority Caribbean nation of Dominica.

Oh hey, NY Times link. Let's see what that says:

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New Orleans, June 13 (UPI) - The Federal authorities said today that John Connally, former Governor of Texas, and Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, had no connection with a plot to overthrow the government of a Caribbean island, despite a lawyer's request that they be subpoenaed for the Federal District Court trial of three alleged mercenaries.

Judge Lansing Mitchell yesterday refused to subpoena Mr. Connally and representative Paul for the trial of three men accused of participating in the planning of a coup attempt in Dominica.

The subpoenaes were sought after Michael Perdue of Houston, who has admitted to being the leader of the band of mercenaries, said Mr. Connally and Mr. Paul knew about the group's plans.

Steven D. Black, Michael Norris and Joe Hawkins are scheduled to go on trial Monday. They were among 10 men arrested April 27 near Slidell, La.


So the idea he even knew about it is inconclusive at best and a blatant lie at worst.

Which is accurate of his being a white supremacist, inconclusive at best, and a blatant lie at worst.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:41 pm  
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If Ron Paul is a white supremacist because white supremacists support him, Barry Obama is a communist because communists support him.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:42 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:25 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:53 pm  
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Communists don't support Obama.

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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:18 am  
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Comparing communists to white supremacists is like comparing apples to a bag of rotten dicks.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:11 am  
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USD wasn't comparing white supremacists to communists. He was drawing a parallel to illustrate how fucking stupid Aestu really is.
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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:30 pm  
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But, but...

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you're an uneducated person, so I'm automatically right.


I mean, even though that's the furthest thing away from what a truly educated person would ever say.

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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
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Battletard wrote:
Comparing communists to white supremacists is like comparing apples to a bag of rotten dicks.


"if X supports you then you're X." Thats what everyone is using to label ron paul as a white supremacist.


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:22 pm  
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It's politics.

Why would X support Y, unless Y is going to implement X's agenda?
If Y is implementing X's agenda, then how can Y /)/ X?


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 Post subject: Re: The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:55 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
It's politics.

Why would X support Y, unless Y is going to implement X's agenda?
If Y is implementing X's agenda, then how can Y /)/ X?


Isn't this completely antithetical to your usual "people voting against their own interests" bullshit?

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