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Seriously, how can anyone believe in a party with these kind of crazies? For every GOP fiscal policy opinion I find myself thinking "hmm, that makes sense"....they have some absurd asshat coming back with a ridiculous social statement. Then you have Paul Ryan, who sponsored a couple bills with this crazy Todd Akin, as the VP candidate. Then you have Mittens being one of the richest asshole presidential candidates this country has ever seen. Have you seen their tax plan? Tax CUTS to people making over $250,000. Jubber, Usdk, Eturnal...I'm pretty sure that wouldn't help any of you. Not to mention he's a Mormon, one of the most backwards sects of Christianity you can possibly find.

I just don't understand how people can support the GOP with a straight face...I just don't get it. Obama has pissed me off for sure, but at least he's not in a party full of backwards, ignorant bigots.


The GOP is going to lose badly. It's not 1950 anymore. Anyone who's educated, or a woman, or intelligent in any way cannot seriously think that these backwards assholes are going to save this country. Look, we're fucked no matter what.....but if it's the lesser of two evils, the choice is clear to me.

In case you were unaware, the Democrats have batshit crazy people too. I haven't seen anyone defending him, only people condemning his idiotic statement. Following your logic all Democrats like to meet children off of Craigslist for oral sex. (I'm on my phone or I'd link the story)

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Callysta of Reverence

Btw, this country's wealth is driven by that "top 1%" you like to bitch about.

I'm intelligent and a woman and there is no way in hell I'd vote for Obama. Ever. But to each their own. I think your guy is an idiot. You think mine is an idiot. That's why we get to vote to pick the biggest idiot.

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This election will be more about the economy/fiscal policy and less about women having the right to abort their unborn children. Because of that, the Republicans have a greater, more real chance of winning the election than you think.

Now, what other non-issues are you guys going to harp on in attempt to distract from the abysmal record of President Obama?

Edit: Just to pick apart some more gems...


At some point in your life, you're going to realize that economic and political policy isn't about helping the individual constituent, but rather society as a whole. Yes, Obama wants to freeze those evil Bush tax cuts (that he blames for all his defecit problems) at their current rates for everyone, except for those making over 200K/250K a year. Those rates would jump to 36 and 39%. Romney, as you pointed out, wants to give millionaires a tax cut. But, it get's better... he's not singling out a specific social class for tax cuts. He wants to reduce the tax rates of ALL income earners by 20%. High income earners would have a 20% reduction in their tax rate, and low income earners would have a 20% reduction in their tax rate. The fact is Romney's plan is designed in a way that let's all income earners keep more of their money, while Obama hopes to suck from the upper-classes to provide more for the lower classes.


Oh, fuck off already you stupid twat. The only people I ever see making an issue about Romney's faith are the same people who cried when people questioned Obama's faith. If Romney believes there is a God, or if he believes there isn't one, isn't an issue. This is just a cop-out excuse. Obama hasn't given you any fucking reason to trust in him or to earn your vote a second term... but, you just have to vote for him "because it's the lesser of two evils." Why don't you take issue with specific policy issues of Romney instead of saying, "I can't vote for him because he's a Mormon!" Pathetic. And to think you're the one who said, and I quote, "but at least he's not in a party full of backwards, ignorant bigots."

Communist argument detected.

"The country's wealth is driven by the Communist Party, which is why they deserve to have nearly all of it."

I mean what's the difference?

That said, both parties have their idiots and crazies. There's not really a reason to vote anymore. I have every confidence Romney will get about 45% of the vote then steal enough to push a win.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

The majority of the party is asking him to drop out of the race.

He has until 5 today to do it without jumping through any hoops. (If he hasn't already, it sounded like he was going to.)

I don't know if it was quite as much what he said, than how he said it though.

I guess severe stress (like maybe that of rape) can basically cause the body to not start the cycle of reproduction. My stepdad worked with cows when he was younger, and he was saying that stress can cause a cow not to conceive.

Whether that's true for humans though, I have no idea. Maybe Fanta can comment on that.

I think what he may have meant by "legitimate rape" was just rape, and he was trying to distinguish between rape and instances where a woman falsely claims rape. Which gives a logical reason as to why he would bring it up - the argument against abortion for instances of rape makes a case that people will claim rape falsely as a loophole around abortion laws.

I'm not making that (or any) argument, btw. This is purely analytical.

The way he said it, his statement sounded so... he made it almost sound like rape isn't the tragedy it is. "Well you got raped, but hey, chin up. Because it was rape the body is going to go ahead and not go preggo on you." The term "legitimate rape" doesn't really make sense either, otherwise you also have illegitimate rape, and I don't know what the hell that would be. Only going in half way? Not make him ejaculate? Only one rapist?

Fair enough.

How does the 1% drive wealth? It seems the gap between them and the rest is simply widening.


I'll be honest, I'm really shocked you are staunchly republican, since so many GOP policies are fervently anti-woman. What do you think about what they say about women who want to use birth control? Their assaults on a woman's right to choose? Etc?

Again you're ignoring that this man who made these comments was quite close to Paul Ryan and co-sponsered bills with him.

@Weena, he 'clarified' in a later interview that by legitmate rape, he meant forcible.

Paul Ryan supports Personhood, which should send off alarms for any woman practicing birth control.

If people voted based on who the VP candidate is, Obama and Mccain would have BOTH lost last time.

I'm surprised you are fervently Democrat because it appears you have a brain. All kidding aside, conservatives aren't anti-women, but the Democrats would like you to think that. I'm also not religious, don't make anywhere near 200k, I have all of my teeth, I'm not racist and I am pro choice. But I have enough sense to realize that welfare programs suck and hate entitlement BS.

Because Paul Ryan didn't make them. If a coworker of yours made a hateful comment should others judge you to be a hateful person also?

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Callysta of Reverence

Look at it from percentages.

What is 20% of 1,000,000?

What is 20% of 1,000?

Do you think everyone will benefit just as much with a unilateral taxcut? I don't think so. My parents got about $600 more back because of the Bush Tax Cuts. That's it. It was gone once we bought some gas, and some food, and went out to a family dinner at Longhorn Steakhouse. Did it really help us that much? How much did it help families making much, much more?

As for disagreeing with Romney, I think the capital gains tax system is broken. And yes, I'm a small business owner who has been a part of asset sales. I think it should be higher and taxed much closer to a regular income tax.

I disagree with his plans to keep tax breaks for huge corporations that do business overseas. Small businesses have to pay full taxes on their profits, yet huge corps like GE, BP, etc. get to pay nothing in taxes.

I disagree with an overwhelming majority of Romney's social views.

I disagree with Mittens/Paul Ryan's love of the military. We are running in a defecit, and the GOP wants to cut education and healthcare...simply ignoring our bloated military budget. Does this make sense to you?

Don't judge Ryan for hanging out with this dude if you won't judge Obama for hanging out with Ayers and Rev Wright. Your bias is showing.

lol, don't think the VP doesn't change/effect how people vote. There are still republicans grumbling that McCain lost partly because he chose Palin.

Tweedledee and Tweedledum. The Dems take the radical feminists, so the GOP takes the radical anti-feminists, then both parties try to foxtail everyone in between into supporting one extremist agenda or the other through demogoguery, which means playing off people's irrational issues.

False elitism is the particular aspect of the GOP platform that appeals to Callysta just as surely as the cult of victimhood appeals to Zaryi. Its not a question of having a brain, its a question of being critical enough to overcome one's capacity to be manipulated through emotional loose ends.

Neither party has answers that would work reasonably well for everyone, and since no one can actually carry on as if half the country doesn't exist, their non-answers dont work for anyone, and will continue to run this country into the ground until things get so bad that a Nazi-like movement will tap into mass desperation to push new ideas (for better or worse).

That's the issues in a nutshell, folks.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I heartily agree with this. I'm tired of both sides picking elements of the fringe and associating them with the candidate and screaming from whatever element will have them that the crazy espouses the views of the candidate. It's dumb and just distracts from the real issues.

I can't believe what Huckabee said though, that blew my mind, especially since the Republican line seems to be gtfo as fast as possible from Akin.