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 Post subject: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:05 am  
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For the 4 or 5 people on this board that still play WoW, the optimization that we saw with the release of DS has to run again. It says to expect 15-60 minutes and so far is at 14% after a half hour on my machine. So if you are in a hurry to see the new patch later today you may want to go ahead and let this run now.


PS. Aestu I just read the prot pally changes and you are excused from playing MoP. Talk about a cluster fuck of a class change.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:07 am  
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And as I hit post the optimization jumped to the end. However there is an additional 460 or so mb of download afterwards so a jumpstart is still not a bad idea.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:09 am  
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Or you could avoid this altogether if you played GW2. :P
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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:41 am  
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I have no plans to buy or play MoP at this time (but who knows) and hadn't bothered looking at the prot pally changes or reading the TLDR of blue crap on MMOC.

I just read them. I actually think the removal of RD is a good thing (and I was the one who proposed it, a while back). And I like that WoG is now off the GCD, like any other defensive CD, and that they brought back continuous consecration.

The rest of the changes make little sense and seem to lack cohesion. I don't like that they're basically turning paladins into three classes in one, restricting way too may core spells to one spec. It looks like they're trying to simplify the class/spec and reduce the number of keybinds required (which is currently much too high), but they're also doing a lot of things that make it pointlessly more complex.

Example, shield slam. What is the point of making the healing buff stack? Why not make that passive? The 3 sec damage reduction (from an ability with no cooldown that is used as part of the rotation roughly every eight seconds) is retarded and pointless and will make tank damage annoyingly unpredictable. Depending on where a tank is in his rotation, he will either get hit for 200k and live or 300k and die. This makes no sense.

Making Sanctity of Battle baseline may seem like a good or inconsequential idea but in reality it will be enormously annoying in raids, because normal raid lag + raid buffs = the rotation will feel really different and hokey in raids without actually giving prot paladins any benefit. This change causes prot paladins to now suffer a problem that has long afflicted ret paladins which is rotation staggering caused by uneven amounts of haste. I don't get why Blizzard made this ability baseline while making many other abilities spec-specific.

Same with Heart of the Crusader and Boundless Conviction. If the goal is to remove unnecessary abilities such as Sense Undead, why turn an active support ability that has no synergy with the rest of the class into a personal passive rather than remove it entirely? Why have a non-negotiable baseline ability that increases the resource pool, rather than just increasing that resource pool, period? I suspect the truth is that the programmers just suck and can't figure out how to increase the baseline Holy Power pool, so instead they add an ability that does that.

I think I would need to play these changes to see the overall impact. My initial impression though is that they overall make the class less elegant and more boring to play, and that they were produced by a collective decision-making process and not a few devs with a clear vision. Minor rant here, I strongly oppose collective decision-making processes and I despise that they have become the vogue in business and education.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:48 am  
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I liked Sense Undead, it made me feel like a zombie hunting paladin.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:23 pm  
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I've heard a mixed bag on Rogues. I'm going with they suck now.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:01 pm  
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Necrachilles wrote:
I've heard a mixed bag on Rogues. I'm going with they suck now.



You will see a whole lot of weird builds because of the fact that you can take abilities that were traditionally only available to one build and now will have them available to all. The change to poisons is interesting though. I barely logged on my rogue on the beta since she is going to a crafting weenie again. If you are on this evening maybe we can duel or something to see how the abilities work.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:15 pm  
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Also, Baneleaf, you have TBC CE, EU version, right? I want to know if your EU pets apply to your US/NA characters.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:46 pm  
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Eturnalshift wrote:
Or you could avoid this altogether if you played GW2. :P


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:28 pm  
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Baneleaf wrote:
Necrachilles wrote:
I've heard a mixed bag on Rogues. I'm going with they suck now.



You will see a whole lot of weird builds because of the fact that you can take abilities that were traditionally only available to one build and now will have them available to all. The change to poisons is interesting though. I barely logged on my rogue on the beta since she is going to a crafting weenie again. If you are on this evening maybe we can duel or something to see how the abilities work.

Oh no, I know about all of the changes. I've just heard that rogues suck now.

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Also, Baneleaf, you have TBC CE, EU version, right? I want to know if your EU pets apply to your US/NA characters.

They already said they don't.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:30 pm  
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Really? Cool, saves me a few hundred bucks or compensation thereof, on both EU TBC and KR-WoW.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:12 pm  
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Love that they've pushed "internal testing" back 3 hours now. More like "Eternal testing".

Haven't they been testing this shit both internally and externally for months and months?


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:13 pm  
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I do not have any collectors editions yet. I will pick up the one for MoP only because I can get the digital edition and not have to stand in line for hours on end. Plus it comes with a mount and a pet.


On a slightly related topic. I got an email from Blizz yesterday saying that since I had at one point subscribed to the mobile ah tool that I would get a free pet. Suspecting it to be bullshit I logged in to my account anyways (not via the link provided but from my own firefox bookmark) and entered the code in the redemption box and to my surprise I was awarded with the Lil Xt pet. Kinda funny how that worked out since that was the one blizz store pet that I would have considered paying gold for.

Also, the servers are down for another hour as of 1713 est.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:25 pm  
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Baneleaf wrote:
I do not have any collectors editions yet. I will pick up the one for MoP only because I can get the digital edition and not have to stand in line for hours on end. Plus it comes with a mount and a pet.


On a slightly related topic. I got an email from Blizz yesterday saying that since I had at one point subscribed to the mobile ah tool that I would get a free pet. Suspecting it to be bullshit I logged in to my account anyways (not via the link provided but from my own firefox bookmark) and entered the code in the redemption box and to my surprise I was awarded with the Lil Xt pet. Kinda funny how that worked out since that was the one blizz store pet that I would have considered paying gold for.

Also, the servers are down for another hour as of 1713 est.

That's what I meant. Also,

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As a World of Warcraft® subscriber who previously also subscribed to World of Warcraft Remote, we’re pleased to let you know that as of 08/23/2012, all of the features that were previously part of the World of Warcraft Remote service will be made available for free to all World of Warcraft subscribers -- including you!
That means you’ll be able to access all of the World of Warcraft Remote features at no additional charge, including:
- Remote Auction House: Bid on items, create auctions, and collect gold via your mobile device or through the official World of Warcraft website.
- Remote Guild Chat: Keep in touch with your guildmates via the Mobile Armory app.
In addition, as our way to say “thanks” for being a World of Warcraft Remote subscriber in the past, you’ll receive one free Lil’ XT pet to call your own -- or to give away to a friend. (Limit one per Battle.net account.)
To claim the Lil’ XT pet, simply log in to the Battle.net® account on which you’d like to redeem the pet, select Games & Codes > Item Code Redemption (or paste the following URL into your browser: https://www.battle.net/account/manageme ... edeem.html), and enter the following one-time-use code:
{redacted}
If you have any questions, please contact Blizzard customer support via https://www.battle.net/support/ticket/submit.
We hope you enjoy the free mobile guild chat and remote auction house features -- see you in Azeroth!
-World of Warcraft Team


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PLZ PLZ PLZ


Anyone want this XT pet code? I have both already...

Also, you have to love that they reward past customers BUT not present customers. Then they wonder why their game is a revolving door. Oh, and I don't have a gchat because no guild will take me. Go figure.


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 Post subject: Re: WoW Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:48 pm  
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Baneleaf has made it known he doesn't read Aestu posts.

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Also, the servers are down for another hour as of 1713 est.


You would think at a time like this they would be busting out the Agonizer to get the servers up. But...


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