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I don't have a big enough yes for this. The only thing that could have made it better was some classy way of saying that girls that are overly skinny aren't healthy and how putting them on everything is sending the wrong image as well.

She handled the situation really well.

Completely disagree.

This is a shameless, demagogic appeal to the fat, lazy and narcissistic. People who are obese are bad and should feel bad. That feeling bad ought to be the basis for a desire to change their condition.

The fact that some women are underweight and anorexic does not change the fact that to be obese is a moral fault.

As someone who was bullied in high school I can tell you that the claim that being overweight is a source of wrongful bullying is a vicious lie. In reality, most bullying is against kids who are simply different, and especially those who are different in their own way. The media is the ultimate cause of all bullying as it has dumbed down American culture, suppressed individuality and established shallowness as a cultural value.

What this is really about is a cheap throw to fat, lazy, disgusting, entitled, self-obsessed women everywhere who prefer to get mad rather than get better and think anyone who makes them feel better about their fat asses is awesome. These are the same people who claim that guilt is oppression by society and that "society" has no right to tell them that they have an obligation to care for their kids or make responsible choices on a day-to-day basis; yet hypocritically use guilt as a blunt instrument to advance their venal goals.

What would we have thought if Rush Limbaugh or some other fat man got on the stage and gave the same self-pitying schtick? The reality is that people regard women with pity and men with contempt, and women like this fat bitch crying about bullying is just entitled white women trying to push their advantage.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

The word bully needs to go away and so does everything that uses it improperly

"Baww that bully told me to sit down!"

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I think you believe this because:
1. you lack the courage to stand up to bullies
2. you try to bully others yourself (but are bad at it because you don't understand people)
3. your narcissistic and brittle personality drives you to deny the existence of any virtue you cannot possess or any personal fault you cannot overcome

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

nah, ethan's right. i knew plenty of fat dudes in highschool who were awesome, fun, and popular. bullying seems to gravitate more to people who are different, display weakness, unable to or unwilling to defend themselves, or have some substantial glaring mental neuroses.

I feel bullied reading that post. I better tell the school counselor about it or I might have to man up.

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I personally believe that the basis for a desire to change should be because you want to be healthy or generally better. Not because you feel bad. I'm not saying that it can't motivate you but you should strive to improve yourself everyday, not just when you feel bad or get hurt.


I haven't really delved into the world of obesity being genetic/etc vs a choice but I'm sure not everyone chooses to be obese just like some people DO choose to be obese. If being overweight is a moral fault than so is being underweight. It's that simple. I'd argue that being 50 pounds overweight is better than being 50 pounds under.


As someone who was bullied in Elementary, Middle School and High School I can tell you that the claim that being overweight is a source of wrongful bullying is true if only partially. In reality, most bullying is against kids that are different (fat, glasses, acne, wheelchair, etc). Unless you want to tell me that there are no fat kids out there who have been made fun of for the sole reason that they're fat.

I will mostly agree with your statement about the media. I don't however think that it is the ultimate cause of "all" bullying. I think human nature is. Bullying happens everywhere, not just in places that are chocked full of "media".


I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where she said "I'm fat and I'm proud and I make no effort to improve myself.". My mistake.

The way you start this statement sounds overly biased with regards to your views on feminists and women in general.


I honestly don't even know who Rush Limbaugh is or why he's relevant. I have heard of him though.

Moving right along, had a man given this same "schtick" I would feel the same. I don't know that a man (let alone many other women) could handle it as well as she did. She didn't come out guns blazing nor did she cower and hide. She voiced how she felt as objectively as I think she could have. The only thing I didn't approve of were the few times you could hear the pain in hear voice but I disregarded that.

I feel as if this video hit a sore spot with you. Your words got porgressively more negative and brazen. Almost as if the more you thought about it the angrier you got. I can safely tell you that when you think of something with negative connotations that harder it is to objectively discuss that same thing.



Now then, all that being said, I feel like the initial letter she recieved was nothing more than a well played troll or at the very least the person who wrote it wasn't truly trying to bully or sound condescending.

The main thing to take from all this is not to let bullying define you or rule your life. To teach your kids and/or those around you to treat others better. I personally don't care because it has no impact on me but you're somewhat one of the people she was talking about. Imagine you had a son and you're sitting there talking about "fat, lazy, disgusting, entitled, self-obsessed women", A) What would your son take from that? Nothing positive I assure you and B) Maybe you're right. Perhaps though, maybe it isn't ALL women. Your son isn't going to necessarily have the skills to distinguish those who truly are "fat, lazy, disgusting, entitled or self-obsessed" from those who truly are trying or have other reasons for why they are the way they are. Your son would simply see another fat person without looking deeper than that.

Rofl yeah imaginary Aestujr!

tldr: She's handsome.

That's funny. A lot of the popular kids were victims of bullying.

Everyone has problems. Everyone is different. Actually, bullying graviates towards people who either A) Draw attention to themselves and are seen as a threat to another person's status B) The people who do stand up for themselves. I can't really recall any bullys who bullied people more than once or twice if they didn't defend themselves. It was always the ones who got upset or tried defending themselves.

It's just like ganking people in WoW. Not many people will sit there and gank a lowbie over and over again for no reason. No one even wants to watch that. However, if you have the illusion of a challenge, whether it's real or not, said person will continue trying to gank/bully whether for his/her own delight or in looking for acceptance from those around themselves.

lolpvpirl.

Public Schools are the PvP servers of the real world.

False. A lot of people live idyllic lives (i.e., sheltered), and a lot of people have a total absence of individuality.



That is why bullying, and the ways schools handle it, is a social evil. It teaches people to be pussies.



Be better, or be able to make the argument you are better? Why do the former if the latter is easier?

That's what this is all about. Worthless women who subscribe to a dogma that tells them they ARE better and therefore don't need to be.



The number of people who are congenitally fat is very small. Not for nothing is obesity a contemporary Western problem and particularly bad in America. The fat person who eats a well-balanced diet does exist but they are the extreme minority, proof being in communities where that is the rule they are rare.

Being obese is a moral fault because it's the result of gluttony and a lack of basic self-respect. To be obese makes one lazy and slovenly. To be obese is to be burden on oneself and everyone around. One need not be a chiseled figure but to be grotesque impaired in daily life because one cannot control ones drives is as sick as being a compulsive gambler, womanizer, or drug addict. It's a bad condition, and guilt and social pressure exist to encourage people to do better.

The fact that being severely underweight is also wrong doesn't diminish the perversity that is obesity - nor the fact that one is a serious social problem and the other is not.



I'm sure there's such a kid somewhere. But really none of the things you listed are ever the cause of bullying except insofar as they make the kid different.

This show is not about being tolerant of people who are different, or stopping bullying thereof, it's about aggrandizing a certain very narrow group of people (fat white women) who have good reason to feel bad about themselves - and who are already treated far better by society than they deserve.



Greed, murder, demagoguery, ignorance, bigotry, thuggery, infidelity, happen everywhere, with or without media. That those human evils are universal does not change the reality that the media has done much to foster them to gross excess here in America.



He's a disgustingly fat far-right wing shock jock. A lot of what he says and writes betrays personal issues and sexual frustration driven by his figure. People take digs at him all the time.



She didn't handle it well at all. She bitched on TV about how hurtful it was to be told something she doesn't like to hear. To deal with it would be to just move on with one's life...or to find the strength to better her condition.

Men deal with crap every day of their lives. That is why they are men. They don't get to stand there and say don't be mean to me. To say that a man couldn't handle as well as she did is to turn reality on its head.



Your observation is completely correct. And there is nothing wrong with being angry or negative. To characterize something as negative does not mean that the characterization is not objective, and to be angry about something for good reason is neither irrational nor pointless. Jubber is right on when he says the disdain for anger and negativity is the "Pussification of America".



I'm not convinced the alleged letter was even real, any more than the alleged Romney leak.

The media is entertainment, and entertainment is all about showmanship. To think that anything that appears on TV is as it seems is as fool as thinking that anything that happens at a magic show is because they're exactly the same thing, staged entertainment.



If you are crying on TV that someone said something unkind then you have already lost.



Why son? How about daughter?

You see, your thought processes are being manipulated without your even realizing it. The implication of what you say is that daughters are virtuous by default but sons grow towards any darkness.

What skills are we talking about? Orwellian self-monitoring of thoughts? Although you do not realize it that is exactly what you mean and it's the same game, whether it's watching brainwashed people like Jubber or Eturnal invent rationalizations to justify their brainwashing, or the radical left-wing equivalent of PC unto unreality.

If I called the military a bunch of self-interested, self-righteous, bigoted, anti-democratic, America-hating thugs, would you consider that an assault on all men? Then why consider similar remarks that apply to a group of women an assault on all women?

As with Jubber and Eturnal, you're resorting to nihilism to justify the unjustifiable. These people are despicable human beings and it's not in spite of "trying" or for any "other reason" (what does that even mean? sumo wrestling?) that they engage in the selfish and passive-aggressive behavior that they do.



Objectively, she is NOT handsome. She's a fat disgusting bitch and the only person being bullied here is you. Your low self esteem is being exploited through social pressure and guilt-tripping to turn reality on its head.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

There is absolutely no difference between a snarky retort on a forum and bitching to the school counselor. None.

Both add up to exactly the same thing which is refusing to man up and deal with whatever was said.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Just came in to say that you're all guys. You have absolutely no idea how fucking evil girls are. Especially in middle school? Fuckin forget it. Middle school girls are horrible cunts, plain and simple. Being overweight is enough to get you tormented for years, I've been there.

But you're also right about everything else. And it was a huge fuckin motivator to lose weight, but obviously being "healthy" wasn't the motivating factor - it was just looking better to stop the torment and show them I WAS good enough. This is how bulimia happened. Yaaay.

I really wish my body was cooperating with me now, because it's really depressing the shit out of me to look like this, and I bust my ass and see no results. Horribly unmotivating.

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I am factually aware of this. Factually. I know how little that means.

Not to harp but the corollary is how silly the feminist argument is.



Try guzzling club soda while playing video games. Particularly very fast-paced games. Also, winter is coming up, try turning down the heat enough that you are shivering.

Not to say it's not difficult or that you don't know well enough from your own expertise.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Kay, we don't know how fucking evil girls are?

How many girls have YOU dated?

No, she's right, women are even more vicious to each other than to men.

I had a lesbian feminist professor who remarked that if women ruled the world there would be fewer wars. I laconically replied that if women ruled the world, wars would be endemic because it isn't in the nature of women to make peace on a rational basis the way men do.

She was actually really surprised and said, "That might be right..."

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You guys all went to high schools full of shitty people.

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